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Brits ban 15 Islamic terror groups

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  1. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

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    Brits seek to ban 15 Islamic terror groups

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1819679,00.html

    London bombs

    Times Online October 10, 2005
    Clarke seeks to ban 15 'Islamic terror groups'

    By Jenny Booth

    Charles Clarke tonight listed 15 alleged international terror groups which he proposes to outlaw in Britain under the Terrorism Act 2000.

    Among the groups are the Islamic organisations Ansar Al Islam, which has claimed responsibility for numerous atrocities in Iraq; Groupe Islamique Combattant Marocain, based in Morocco; Al Ittihad Al Islamia, of Somalia; and Ansar Al Sunna, another Iraqi group which has claimed to have carried out suicide bombings, kidnappings and executions.

    Being a member of a proscribed organisation under the Terrorism Act 2000 can be punished by a 10-year jail term.

    "Recent events in London and elsewhere in the world have shown all too clearly that the threat posed by global terrorism has not gone away," said Mr Clarke, the Home Secretary, issuing the list.

    "The attacks of July 7 and 21 have served as a stark reminder of the need to maintain a vigorous approach to dealing with terrorists and their supporters."

    He added that proscription was an important power, and not one to be used lightly, but that after careful consideration he was satisfied all 15 groups should be added.

    The other groups on the list are: Harakat-ut-Jihad-ul-Islami, Harakat-ut-Jihad-ul-Islami (Bangladesh), Harakat-ut-Mujahideen/Alami, Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin, Islamic Jihad Union, Jamaat ul-Furquan, Jundallah, Khuddam ul-Islam, Lashkar-e Jhangvi, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group and Sipah-e Sahaba Pakistan.

    Once proscribed an organisation is outlawed in the UK. It is a criminal offence for anyone to belong to, support or display support for a proscribed group.

    Mr Clarke also revealed that he wants to make it easier to ban suspected terror organisations. Under the Terrorism Act 2000 the Home Secretary has the power to proscribe any organisation which he believes "is concerned in terrorism". This is any group that commits or participates in acts of terrorism, prepares for terrorism or promotes or encourages it.

    In future, the Home Secretary proposes to grant himself the power to ban any organisation deemed to glorify terrorism.

    Mr Clarke said: "I am also determined to act against those who, while not involved in committing acts of terrorism, provide succour or support for terrorist groups and their acts.

    "That is why I intend to bring forward further legislation to amend the current threshold of proscription to make it possible to proscribe any organisation which glorifies terrorism."

    Plans to make it a crime for an individual to glorify terrorism have however been dropped as too vague and legally unworkable, after an outcry by the opposition parties and human rights groups.

    The exchange came as the Government prepares to publish its anti-terrorism Bill on Wednesday setting out new powers for tackling the terror threat after the July 7 bombings in London. Downing Street said that Tony Blair still hoped to reach agreement with opposition parties over controversial plans to hold terror suspects for up to 90 days without being charged.

    Within minutes of the list of 15 organisations being published, MPs were complaining that the time allocated for them to debate the list and the proposed change to the Terrorism Act was inadequate.

    Geoff Hoon, the Leader of Commons, told the House that a motion to amend the Act would be debated on Thursday, in three days' time.

    David Heath, for Liberal Democrats, protested: "This is a single order - dealing with 15 organisations (and) incapable of amendment. This does not allow for proper and separate consideration of the different organisations involved and dealing with them on the merits which perhaps might be appropriate in this case."

    Mr Hoon insisted that there would be a proper opportunity for debate on Thursday.

    Of the groups on the list, Ansar Al Islam (AI) is a radical Sunni Salafi group, formed in 2001 in north-east Iraq. It is thought to has a mixture of Iraqi and non-Iraqi members, mostly Arabs and Kurds and to operate a network in Iran. It remains closely associated with the insurgency and terrorism in Iraq and has links to al-Qaeda.

    The Groupe Islamique Combattant Marocain (GICM) has been linked to the May 2003 Casablanca bombings and the March 2004 Madrid train bombings. Its primary objective is to replace the governing Moroccan monarchy with a new governing system, but it is also linked to al-Qaeda.

    Ansar Al Sunna (AS) is a fundamentalist Sunni Islamist extremist group, based in central Iraq. It aims to expel British and American troops from Iraq and to create a fundamentalist Islamic state. Aligned to al-Qaeda, it is responsible for many attacks on Iraqi police and civilians, foreign civilians and the multi-national forces within Iraq.

    Al Ittihad Al Islamia (AIAI) aims to establish a radical Sunni Islamic state in Somalia and is also aligned to al-Qaeda.
     
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  2. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Did you ever tell us what "point" you were trying to make? I must have missed it.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  3. tigermission1

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    Weak! Death penalty should be used more often...

    As for those other groups, they are a bunch of 'small timers'.
     
  4. gwayneco

    gwayneco Contributing Member

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    No, not yet. Perhaps I should just let y'all figure it out.
     
  5. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
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    "David Heath, for Liberal Democrats, protested"
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  6. tigermission1

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    Too punkish to say it out loud to everyone? ;)

    No seriously, i find most of your posts informative, I enjoy reading them.
     
  7. AggieRocket

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    You find them informative, while I just find them humorous. I do not even read the articles.
     
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  8. AggieRocket

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    Here are my guesses:

    1) You hate Muslims
    2) You love Muslims
    3) You are a Muslim
    4) You are obsessed with Muslims
    5) You lost a bet and now have to do this or a keg stand
    6) You are just bored and this is how you pass your time
    7) You enjoy watching the reaction of others to your posting anything and everything that has to do with Muslims.

    Is it one of the 7?
     
  9. tigermission1

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    I would say #5 ;)
     
  10. MR. MEOWGI

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    I still think he is an actual pig.
     
  11. tigermission1

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    In that case, shouldn't he be on good terms with people that don't eat pigs? ;)
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Hamas? Hezbollah?
     
  13. AMS

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    Probably already banned previously
     

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