Britain Furious at "Extraordinary" French Statement

This isnt' directly on topic, but why do some of the nations have this "veto" power.....

I know we have it too.... but whats the point of even getting a majority vote when there is always one nation that can block it single handidly?

 

I've heard the French politicians say this many times, but I've yet to hear them admit that the results are ONLY because of the pressure exerted on Iraq by the US and UK. Just another reason to believe that this is just a political 'thing' for the French gov.

I also heard a report that the Franch felt slighted after Gulf War I when they did not get the Kuwaiti contracts they hoped for, even after contributing to the fight.

 

Yes! This is a complete joke. And people want to argue about Americans being too aggressive with "Freedom Fries."

We need to wake up and smell the coffee. The reality is France doesn't give a crap about us, and if we keep waiting for their (worthless) approval on this war, then we may get hurt. What if the ideal time for war has passed? How many deaths will it cost? What if the North Korean situation becomes worse? How much money are we losing by waiting?

I have no problem discussing whether this war is a good idea. But I think it is a terrible idea to try to convince France. They aren't even a very important ally anymore (and they know it, which is why they are doing this).

 

LMAO! No. Some expected less juvenile behavior from our elected officials. Well, strike that. Some of us would like to expect less juvenile behavior. In any case, it's not "too aggressive." "Freedom Fries" is simply the most ignorant and hilarious thing I may have ever heard. Well, until some good CC net soul posted "Freedom Tickler!" That was even better.

 

No one said aggressive. They said petty and a waste of time...which it is.

 

Another reported concern of French leaders is that the Iraqi people will cheer coalition forces as liberators, and the French will not be there.

 

I disagree, RM,

Freedom Fries has allowed me to chuckle to myself spontaneously all week, and that (selfishly) has been a wonderful thing. So it's not a complete waste of time, maybe, but then, like an unintentionally bad film, it's just not having the intended effect.

 

That is true B-Bob, so homosexually true.

 

Listen to the expert on "homo" B-Bob.

 

Well, I guess you'd be the one to know.

(I got that zinger from a newly appointed American diplomat! Pretty good, huh?)

Seriously, what is with your sig now?

edit: RM95's sig. (Sorry, Sonny, you beat me to the punch!)

 

Me or RM95?

 

If that's petty then what do you call what France is doing. They are being petty on a worldwide scale with real consequences. They should at least make a stand based on actual reasons.

 

That's true. Everytime I see it on tv my internal BS meter goes off and I immediately change the channel. It's something mayors from small towns should be doing (no offense if anyone's a small- town mayor

"Abortions for some and miniature American flags for everyone else!"

 

This is no different from what the Bush administration has done. If you don't vote our way you're irrelevant. The French response is well we don't care what you say either. Somehow I doubt Bush will learn the lesson here.

 

It's ridiculous to not listen to the facts, and then decide. Why make up someone's mind before all the facts are in. That goes to the French and German side as well as the American side.

I'll admit that after watching and listening to all the arguments I changed from staunchly anti-war with Iraq, to at least considering that it might be necessary. I'm still undecided, at least that it's needed at the present time, but I think it's ridiculous for any side not to listen to the other.

 

Actually France is irrelevant because they have little political influence outside of the UN. China, Japan, and India are all probably more politically important. It has nothing to do with the vote, but a "No" vote by France risks the US going anyways and their irrelevance becoming all the more clearer.

 

I've been ready to go for a while now. Even though I'm not positive that the evidence is there that they are in possession of WMD, I think it's been clear for some time now that Saddam was only doing the bare minimum to appease some of those in the U.N.

I do think that Bush (and his admin) massively screwed up getting international support, even though it appears that it may have been moot anyway. However, there's no telling how our relationships with some countires will be affected a long way down the road, and that's what is troubling to me.

There seems to be a good enough link between Iraq and terrorism/Al-Qaeda to warrant an invasion, but what troubles me is that if the link was stronger, we should've gone in a long time ago. If you want to argue that Saddam had something to do with 9/11, I don't see any reason to bother with the UN as our soil was attacked. However, whether or not there's a clear link between Saddam and 9/11, there appears to be evidence of Saddam and terrorism in other parts of the globe (Philipenes) for me to support a regime change by almost any means necessary.

Of course, I probably could've just started this post by saying that I'm for intervention in almost all cases where there's a murderous dictator killing his own people.

I just get bothered by all this boycott stuff (even though it's within people's rights), because I really think it's petty, and I don't think France is doing it out of pettiness. Like someone pointed out, they've given us the most support in the war in Afghanistan. If that's true, why are they all of the sudden anti-American? Maybe they truly disagree with us on this one, and while I disagree with them, I don't see the point in having Congress waste time and money changing the names of menu items, and crap like that. We should be bigger than that and the next time France or Germany is in trouble and needs our assistence, I really hope we're not the kind of country that says no because of this.

B-Bob, it's from a Simpsons' episode. Mr. Burns is leading callisthenics, and he says as he's pushing out his arms then pulling them back in, "push out the jive, bring in the love".