This taken from nbatalk.com Now Grant Wants Out. Jermaine O'Neal is packing his bags and Brian Grant is about to opt out of his contract with the Blazers. "We'll probably exercise the 'out' clause," agent Mark Bartelstein said from Chicago on Wednesday. "It just gives him some flexibility. It just creates a few more options for him." Bartelstein emphasized that Grant wants to re-sign with the Blazers. "Just because he exercises his 'out' clause doesn't means he's not interested in going back to the Blazers," the agent said. "He loves the people in Portland. He has a great relationship with the people and the fans." Grant had been frustrated by his lack of minutes this year with the Blazers. Cabbage mentioned trading with Portland before involving the 9th pick, although he was referring to Jermaine O'Neal. If the Jermaine O'Neal trade falls through with the Bulls, would you guys trade the 9th, another player, and part of the exception for Grant? To me, Portland is looking for a center, and Brian Grant would be a heck of a lot better than Jermaine O'Neal if we are looking at what we could get in return from Portland for our pick. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
Grant's not worth any more than say $5.4 million to the Rox IMO. He's going to want more than that, so I say pass. ------------------
I think Grant is worth around 7-8 million. I would love to get him in here, the guy never gives up. He can rebound like crazy and he doesnt back down from anyone. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB
Hell no!! Grant is a good, talented role player, but not even worth the #9 pick by itself!! He is just like Jayson Williams IMO...one dimensional. If you make that trade you might as well trade Steve, not even sign Mobes, and just cut Hakeem, because this team would suck for years to come and have NO cap room to maneuver with in the years to come. FYI, Cato had better numbers. Still want to give Grant 7-8 million?? ------------------ We need some meat in the post!
The numbers are misleading Pimp. Grant got to play about 20 minutes a game in Portland this year, and when he was in he still wasn't given the ball a lot. Here he'd be a decent low post option who'd play about 35 minutes a night. He is a very good big man, and I would trade the #9 pick and someone else for him in a heartbeat. My only concern would be would be want too much money, and then take up too much cap space? Yes, I'd probably take Croshere over Grant, and Croshere would ask for less money. But if we couldn't get Croshere, I would definitely look into Grant. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
Cat, did you look at the numbers? MPG Cato 24.3 Grant 21.0 FG% Cato 54% - while playing more minutes! Grant 49% FT% Cato 65% Grant 68% RPG Cato 6.0 Grant 5.5 BPG Cato 124 Grant 28 TO Cato 71 - while playing more minutes!! Grant 84 I'd say the numbers tell it like it is...especially on the defensive end! ------------------ We need some meat in the post!
First of all, Grant doesnt get alot of playing time. Most of the year he was injured and he started getting back in shape by playoff time. He doesnt play alot with Rasheed in front of him. Brian Grant is a much much better player than Cato. In portland, the scoring and stuff are balanced since the team is soo deep. ------------------ President of the Moochie Norris FAN CLUB
Look at Grant's numbers from last year when he got the minutes and involvement in the offense. Also he was not hurt, as Francis3 said. Last year he was one of the top defensive power forwards in the game, gave all out hustle, and averaged 12 points and 10 rebounds a game. All in only 31 minutes on a very deep team. This guy would be a great fit on the Rockets, and if he would take a somewhat less salary (not 10 mil) then I'd love to have him. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
Brian Grant would be great for the Rockets. Not only is he a solid low post player and leader (kicked Malone's butt last year in the playoffs), he is a solid citizen as well (won the citizenship award last year as well). He is far and away the fan favorite in Portland, and I think he could be so in Houston as well. ------------------ The Rockets never lose, they just get outscored occasionally
Looking at last season's numbers is not really a good indication of Grant as he was recovering from injury. The two previous years, he was roughly a 12-9 player. Also, his post game is better than what people give him credit for. The problem in Portland is that they have so many options that its impossible to really establish one guy in the post. In Houston, he would be able to do that. Grant really showed a lot of good offensive skills in the 1999 playoffs when he went toe to toe with Karl Malone. He averaged something like 19-10 that series and was one of the key reasons the Blazers knocked out Utah. With a full load of minutes, 35 per game, along with consistent touches, I think Grant would really play well in Houston. He could be a 15-10 type player that provides a bulky 6-9 260 widebody up front. His desire and work ethic are incredible, and he plays hard every second he's on the floor. Grant's contributions in terms of hustle and intangibles cannot be fully measured by stats. ------------------ Check out the Best Source for Draft Info Draftsource.net
Brian Grant is perfect for this team. He can add what we have lacked ofr several years now. Somebody who can guard the fours of the modern NBA era. ------------------
Yes Pimp, but the Rockets need that dimension very badly. Brian Grant would instantly add toughness and defensive intensity to a weak frontcourt. With our small-guard lineup, we need as much as that as we can get. Brian Grant can also hit the medium range jumpshot with some consistency, and that is a huge weapon. I think Grant with the Rockets would be a perfect match. He is clearly better than anything we could get at the #9 spot. The only problem is, I can't see Grant signing for only $4.5mill (trade the #9+trade exception). ------------------ "My sources tell me Rudy Tomjanovich is head coach of the Houston Rockets."
Grant is a perfect banging, rebounding, effort guy except for one thing. He's constantly injured. He simply can not make it through a season without injury. For that reason alone his risk factor is rather large. His rather large contract is a bit disproportionate with his abilities too (the trade exception nullifies that a bit though). I don't think the Rockets are in a position where that risk with that reward is necessarily worth it. A younger (not that Grant's that old), cheaper, less injury prone guy might be a better bet. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Hobbs (edited June 16, 2000).]
Just going on thacabbage's point. If we were to get Grant it would seem liekly that we would have to give up the nine. What would you do if came to a choice between the nine and Brian Grant which one do you think could help the side more? Personally I'd take Grant. ------------------
Francis3, Grant played only about 3 minutes less per game than Cato did. Wasn't he only injured for the beginning of the season and for a short game strech in March? Cato was also out for awhile as I recall. Cat, I did look at the numbers. I'm not sure what numbers you are looking at, but from what I see, he averaged 7.3ppg and 5.5 rbg in 21 mpg. MM, you are right, he played well against Utah but average at best against other teams. There are 26 other teams in the league that we have to beat throughout the year. I'm not really worried about the Jazz being a major threat in the playoffs in the years to come. As for his so-called defensive prowess, what makes him such a defensive player? He doesn't block shots! Grant blocked .44 shots per game. By comparison Steve Francis blocked {b].38[/b] shots per game. Cato blocked over 4 times as many shots per game as Grant at a 1.91bpg clip. I like Grant as a person. He is a great guy, a team player and a stand-up person in the community like 'Mo Cocktail pointed out, but I don't think he is what the Rockets need. We already have players similar to him, not to mention MUCH less expensive. Oh, I forgot to mention, Grant had all of 2 double-doubles last year. ------------------ We need some meat in the post and I don't mean Brian Grant! [This message has been edited by RocketsPimp (edited June 16, 2000).]
Pimp, there are other ways of being a great defender then racking up glossy block numbers. Brian Grant is not a shot-blocker. I won't lie to you and tell you that he is. However, he is an intimidator, and a very good straight-up man-to-man defender. He's similar to Charles Oakley in that he doesn't block many shots, but if you drive the lane, he won't think twice about sending you on your ass. As for the numbers you pulled up, you're right...Brian Grant did not have a good year this past season. There is no arguing that. ------------------ "My sources tell me Rudy Tomjanovich is head coach of the Houston Rockets."
Pimp- I said look at his numbers LAST year when he was healthy and consistently received the ball, not this year. This year he did not receive the minutes, was not healthy, and when he did play he wasn't a focal point for the offense. Stat-wise, you can just about throw this year out. They don't show the true player Brian Grant is. ------------------ Cheaters never win. Unless you play for LA that is.
