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Breaking 1-06-21: MAGA terrorist attack on Capitol

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by RESINator, Jan 6, 2021.

  1. Commodore

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    Are u thinking it's unfair that Rhodes got recomme ded more jail time than a blm rioter? Need to wait until may 25th or so for u to b upset if he actually gets that much time sentenced.

    It's like different severity of crimes warrants different sentencing length. What a difficult concept to wrap around huh?
     
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  3. Commodore

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    Why is what Rhodes did more severe than burning someone alive?
     
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    First of all do u even think what Rhodes did leading up,during and after jan 6 is wrong and do u even know whats exactly he's being charged with?

    Bc if u did u wouldn't b asking me such a stupid question.

    He also hasn't been sentenced yet, so save your outrage of it being unfair since we don't know his official sentence.

    There worst crimes in this country than one murder.
     
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    Troll on, brother. Troll on.
     
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    I think brother @Commodore is running under the assumption that

    if a black person did it, they need to be shot at sunrise

    and if a white person did it, they are just patriots doing their civic duty.
     
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    Because Rhodes knew what he was doing. The BLM protester didn’t know there was still someone in that building.

    In that case it is awful and he was rightfully convicted. There is a substantial difference between torching a pawn shop and attacking the US Capitol.
     
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    Intent
     
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    Man it has been years and I am still trying to determine if he is crazy or crazy like a fox about the election. I know he believes his own rhetoric about how great he is. However, does he really believe all this other BS about a stolen election? I'm not so sure. His supporters who believe him about it are nuts and he knows this. So I wonder if they are just useful idiots to him. He knows they will follow him off a cliff. He is a narcissistic POS and wants to "win" at any cost. Either way he should never be in a position of power again.
     
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    Cant really take conservative and their faux rhetoric about patriotism/nationism/loyalty and whatever bs they sprout.

    These folks probably thought jan 6 wasn't even a big thing if enough time passed.

    Assaulting the capitol and the brave police officers is as unpatriotic as it can get.
     
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    If you're talking about Trump no, he doesn't actually believe he won the election. The J6 hearing presented plenty of evidence that not only was he informed by many early on that he lost the election but that he made private statements acknowledging he lost. Even since then every now and then he's let slip he didn't win the election.
     
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    This makes me guess somebody is about to get busted. My guess is that it's Meadows.

    Could also be Eastman.
     
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    This seems like it could be a really big deal.
     
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    J6 rioter gets 14 years

    https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/05/06/j6-rioter-gets-14-years-n548812

    excerpt:

    We’ve covered plenty of these January 6 trials here in the past, but Schwartz has set a record for the harshest penalty to be handed down. I have always maintained that the people who arrived late at the Capitol building and did nothing but walk around inside were guilty of little more than trespassing. But those who engaged in property damage, theft, or (most importantly) physical attacks on law enforcement officers engaged in actual rioting and need to be held to account, even if other rioters during the “summer of love” have been ignored.

    Mr. Schwartz was accused of “attacking police officers with pepper spray and a chair.” Pepper spray is technically a weapon, though it’s of the non-lethal variety, so that’s a serious accusation. But you need to read much further into the Justice Department’s report to find the phrase, “the stream of liquid did not directly hit any officer.” In other words, Schwartz didn’t pepper-spray any of the police. He deployed pepper spray in the vicinity of the police. He did admit to throwing a folding chair that bounced off of a police officer’s riot shield.

    That was the totality of Schwartz’s assault on the Capitol Hill Police. Yes, it definitely qualifies as an attack, and punishment is merited for anyone who assaults law enforcement officers. (Though it rarely if ever happened during the BLM riots.) But fourteen years? That’s more than twice as much time as a Nevada man got in March when he was convicted of literally shooting at police officers.

    The conduct of Judge Amit Mehta (who is also a FISA judge) should also be noted here. Rather than simply defining the crimes and pronouncing a sentence, Mehta opted to give a speech. He called Schwartz a “soldier against democracy” (which is not a legal term that I’m aware of). He further declared that Schartz was “not a political prisoner” or someone who was “fighting against an autocratic regime.” These are all talking points straight out of an MSNBC script, not the nation’s legal codes.
    more at the link
     
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    So he did attack the police. Shooting at the police but missing won't get the same penalty as shooting and killing the officer, but still deserves a serious amount of prison time. 14 years seems appropriate for someone who attacked police officers while trying to over turn the election.
     
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    If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
     
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    He got 18 years + 3 of supervised release.

    The judge's sentencing statement is worth reading, an excerpt:

     

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