1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Brandon Jennings an Option in 2014?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BreakYoSelfFool, Mar 9, 2013.

  1. SkyrimOwnsAll

    SkyrimOwnsAll Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2012
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    42
    he's not white
     
  2. andersongo

    andersongo Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    1,176
    Likes Received:
    153
    Rockets will never get him anyway as they will have to fight off a max offer from that genius, Brian Colangelo. Jennings has been earmarked as the next Toronto PG project once the raps get rid of current new PG project Lowry himself successor of Calderon, successor of Jack, successor of Bayless....
     
  3. knickstorm

    knickstorm Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,712
    Likes Received:
    74
    LOL here's the real story. Jennings wants big money...Bucks won't give it to him, and no one else can pay him as much as Milwaukee because they can go over the cap to sign him since he's been there his whole career.

    He sings the qualifying offer....then during that year, the Bucks have to trade him unless they want to lose him for nothing. He's praying a team likes him so much they'll pay him max money. That way he signs the extension for big money in a sign and trade. That way he still gets out of Milwaukee and gets the most amoutn of money possible. Just like Melo did with the Nuggets.
     
  4. jocar

    jocar Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2007
    Messages:
    4,869
    Likes Received:
    614
  5. jeffyisme

    jeffyisme Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2012
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    4
    I thought teams can not trade a player who accepts qualifying offer without his consent? Plus, even if the player consents to the trade, his bird right will NOT be traded. That makes zero sense for other teams to make the trade if they are over the cap.
     
  6. haydenfisher342

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2012
    Messages:
    2,449
    Likes Received:
    100
    Lin > Jennings and Lin isnt shouting out that he wants Max money. No & NO!

    If Asik is ok with sixth man min then get d12! and get all star PF. GG Championship
     
  7. slickricky

    slickricky Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2005
    Messages:
    845
    Likes Received:
    58
    As much as I want us to get better quicker... I tend to lean in favor of this argument. Ever since Josh Smith has become a topic of choice I have found myself more interested in Hawks games. After watching these games and his decision making in the final seconds of tight games I am not convinced... As much as it would suck to wait another year I suggest we do.... while continuing to pursue guys like Kevin Love and LMA... this type of PF along side Asik and Parsons (who needs to get paid and paid by us) with and ever growing star in Harden and Lin at the point is what we need

    Dream:

    Asik
    Love (MAX)
    Parsons (Asik and Lin type deal)
    Harden (MAX)
    Lin

    DMO
    TROB
    Beverly
    2nd pick from PHX (SG/SF)
     
  8. parksn306

    parksn306 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2012
    Messages:
    1,158
    Likes Received:
    40
    No thank you, he doesn't really bring anything we need. If we are looking to shore up our backcourt rotation, priority 1, 2 and 3 H A S to be finding a lock-down wing defender PERIOD. That is what we REALLY need, not more scoring.
     
  9. dragonz

    dragonz Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2007
    Messages:
    1,718
    Likes Received:
    56
    fixed
     
  10. tallanvor

    tallanvor Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    17,420
    Likes Received:
    9,446
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_HaBya2k2vc" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  11. dmenacela

    dmenacela Member

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2002
    Messages:
    2,456
    Likes Received:
    569
    Pass. He's not a good fit for the Rockets plus we need some size. Aaron Brooks has already hurt us a little.
     
  12. Geronimo

    Geronimo Member

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2012
    Messages:
    799
    Likes Received:
    34
    Jennings is Aaron Brooks without the jumpshot and less speed. Sure you want that as your starting PG? lol
     
  13. felixng2012

    felixng2012 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2012
    Messages:
    1,823
    Likes Received:
    282
    Lol Jennings. Your delusional if you think he is worth pursuing.
     
  14. BreakYoSelfFool

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2008
    Messages:
    663
    Likes Received:
    573
    According to Jennings and his agent, the Bucks never offered him an extension at all. I doubt that he would have turned down 4 years 40 mil
     
  15. jimbo0488

    jimbo0488 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    0
    Brandon Jennings just had another good game in a win over GS. 31 points, 10 assists on 10-16 shooting.

    For March he is averaging 20 ppg and 14.5 apg
     
  16. Exel

    Exel Member

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2012
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    29
    Smart move by Jennings if he does this and plays semi-decently next season. With all the teams clearing cap space for the 2014 free agent draft class in hopes of snaring one of the elite free agent, one team that misses out will scramble and overpay him. Ala the Knicks with Stoudemire.
     
  17. mugrakers

    mugrakers Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    1,074
    Likes Received:
    218
    Brandon Jennings would be perfect for this system and our team. His recent showcase of distributing when he has real shooters around him has really opend my eyes. Harden and Jennings would be unstoppable.
     
  18. knickstorm

    knickstorm Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    3,712
    Likes Received:
    74
    I'm unsure of the consent rules, but I doubt in the qualifying offer lies a rule where a player can veto a team's trade.

    Either way, what I'm saying is, Jennings signs the qualifying offer. In the middle of the year he tells the BUcks, I'm not coming back, you trade me or lose me for nothing. The BUcks cut their losses and look for takers.

    Jennings wants this because he'll do a sign a trade, where he signs the big deal with the Bucks and then gets shipped to a team that wants him.

    THis makes sense for a team over the cap because there's no way for them to get under, so they can't get him or any other free agents. Just like the Knicks when they were over the cap, they made all these stupid trades ie sign and trade for Eddy Curry, cause they thought he was solid and they never would've been under the cap to even go for him.
     
  19. LosPollosHermanos

    LosPollosHermanos Houston only fan
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2009
    Messages:
    28,862
    Likes Received:
    12,781
    thats because he wants the max.
     
  20. Skyhoop

    Skyhoop Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2012
    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    43
    If he takes the qualifying offer, he can't be traded without his consent. A qualifying offer is a 1 yr contract. Any player on a 1 yr contract (excluding possible future team/player option years attached to that 1 yr contract) who will end up with Larry Bird or Early Bird Rights at the end of the contract (which is certainly the case with Jennings) cannot be traded without their consent. And if such a player is traded with his consent, he loses all his bird rights and becomes a Non-Bird Free agent.

    Basically, they close the "extend and trade" loophole that Melo used to force his way from Denver. You can't tie an extension and a trade together into a single transaction.

    Even in the case of Harden, Stern explicitly warned Morey and OKC that they may not discuss with Harden whether he is willing to sign an extension or not with the Rockets prior to the trade. So it was a trade between Rockets/Thunder, followed by a separate subsequent Extension negotiation between Harden/Rockets. An "Extend and Trade" discussion between Harden/Thunder/Rockets was prohibited in the guidance provided by the league office during the Harden trade discussions.

    So you can do a trade followed by a separate extension like in the Harden case. But not if Harden had been on a 1 yr qualifying offer. Because if Harden had been on a 1 yr qualifying offer (like this hypothetical scenario with Jennings), he would lose all his bird rights in the trade, and not be eligible for a max bird right extension subsequent to the trade, assuming you could get his consent which is required for the trade in the first place.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now