Obama's drone war seemed like such a no brainer. Clearly illegal under international law, but so what. What was not to like? Use drones. Kill some Taliban and of course a lot more innocent Pakistanis, perhaps even some number twos in Al Qaeda. Obama could pimp his tough national security image. No Americans killed. Looks high tech and a better, smarter warrior than Bush. Keep the blood lusting neo-cons and the other cons at bay so he could make some changes at home. His political advisors like it and of course the military guys like it, too. Problem is the blowback. Not every Pakistani out of the tens of millions takes it kindly or even rationally. It will increase terrorism in the good old USA. Now we have more of a brain drain as the elite Pakistanis go to Canada or other countries seen as more friendly to Pakistan. We do get to spend billions more on security and the military industrial complex so there are some winners. ******** Uneasy Pakistanis No Longer Flock to US Amid Distrust Failed Times Square Bombing Brings Scrutiny of Ordinary Immigrants by Jason Ditz, May 24, 2010 Email This | Print This | Share This | Comment | Antiwar Forum In the wake of 9/11, Muslim-Americans across the nation felt a measure of scrutiny, but by and large officials and the public had the sense, if not immediately realized, that the attackers fit into a very specific subset of ultra-fundamentalists. Not so with the failed Times Square bombing. Though on a much smaller scale the implication of Faisal Shahzad, a Pakistani-American with no particular history of ties with militant groups or obvious inclination toward radicalism, has had dramatic ramifications on the Pakistani community in the US. In fact it is Shahzad’s very ordinariness that has caused serious problems for other very ordinary Pakistanis living in the US, who are finding themselves subject to enormous suspicion on the basis of their similarity. If Shahzad, a mild-mannered financial analyst living in Connecticut, could become a terrorist, everybody becomes a potential suspect. That endless, unavoidable suspicion is already having an impact, as students no longer want to come to the US to study, graduates no longer want to come to the US to work, and there is a belief that tourism to the US will likely drop as well. For the hundreds of thousands of Pakistani-Americans, this adds up to fewer visits from relatives in Pakistan, more hassles at the airport, and a growing sense of isolation. For some this means trying to pass themselves off as Indians to avoid scrutiny. For others, it means trying to live life as normally as possible and hope that the suspicion of them eventually passes. With the Obama Administration constantly escalating the fight in Pakistan, however, this could be a long wait. http://news.antiwar.com/2010/05/24/uneasy-pakistanis-no-longer-flock-to-us-amid-distrust/
Where is your outrage that the Pakistanis are not killing off the Taliban since the Taliban kills off many, many more of their citizenry than our drones and smart bombs? Whereas the Taliban targets a marketplace full of Pakistanis shopping the drones are targeted on bad guys and their supporters. Gosh, I'm defending Obama. There's a first.
Well they were called "Tribal Areas" for a reason. The US has virtually forced a civil war on Pakistan. Oh well who cares about another million or two innocent refugees.
The US "forced" a civil war on Pakistan? LOL. Of course they didnt want to fight a civil war... Pakistanis were content to sit on the sideline as long as the Taliban were bothering other people. Almost as pathetic is your attempt to justify it.
I don't see why there would be significant blowback from the Pakistani community due to this one act. It was amateur hour and he did no real damage. That guy who flew the plane into the IRS building in Austin did way more damage and those felllas are alot more concerning to day to day activities.
U.S. Is a Top Villain in Pakistan’s Conspiracy Talk By SABRINA TAVERNISE ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — Americans may think that the failed Times Square bomb was planted by a man named Faisal Shahzad. But the view in the Supreme Court Bar Association here in Pakistan’s capital is that the culprit was an American “think tank.” No one seems to know its name, but everyone has an opinion about it. It is powerful and shadowy, and seems to control just about everything in the American government, including President Obama. “They have planted this character Faisal Shahzad to implement their script,” said Hashmat Ali Habib, a lawyer and a member of the bar association. Who are they? “You must know, you are from America,” he said smiling. “My advice for the American nation is, get free of these think tanks.” Conspiracy theory is a national sport in Pakistan, where the main players — the United States, India and Israel — change positions depending on the ebb and flow of history. Since 2001, the United States has taken center stage, looming so large in Pakistan’s collective imagination that it sometimes seems to be responsible for everything that goes wrong here. “When the water stops running from the tap, people blame America,” said Shaista Sirajuddin, an English professor in Lahore. The problem is more than a peculiar domestic phenomenon for Pakistan. It has grown into a narrative of national victimhood that is a nearly impenetrable barrier to any candid discussion of the problems here. In turn, it is one of the principal obstacles for the United States in its effort to build a stronger alliance with a country to which it gives more than a billion dollars a year in aid. It does not help that no part of the Pakistani state — either the weak civilian government or the powerful military — is willing to risk publicly owning that relationship. One result is that nearly all of American policy toward Pakistan is conducted in secret, a fact that serves only to further feed conspiracies. American military leaders slip quietly in and out of the capital; the Pentagon uses networks of private spies; and the main tool of American policy here, the drone program, is not even publicly acknowledged to exist. “The linchpin of U.S. relations is security, and it’s not talked about in public,” said Adnan Rehmat, a media analyst in Islamabad. The empty public space fills instead with hard-line pundits and loud Islamic political parties, all projected into Pakistani living rooms by the rambunctious new electronic media, dozens of satellite television networks that weave a black-and-white, prime-time narrative in which the United States is the central villain. “People want simple explanations, like evil America, Zionist-Hindu alliance,” said a Pakistani diplomat, who asked not to be named because of the delicate nature of the topic. “It’s gone really deep into the national psyche now.” One of those pundits is Zaid Hamid, a fast-talking, right-wing television personality who rose to fame on one of Pakistan’s 90 new private television channels. He uses Google searches to support his theory that India, Israel and the United States — through their intelligence agencies and the company formerly known as Blackwater — are conspiring to destroy Pakistan. For Mr. Hamid, the case of Mr. Shahzad is one piece of a larger puzzle being assembled to pressure Pakistan. Why, otherwise, the strange inconsistencies, like the bomb’s not exploding? “If you connect the dots, you have a pretty exciting story,” he said. But the media are only part of the problem. Only a third of Pakistan’s population has access to satellite channels, Mr. Rehmat said, and equally powerful are Islamic groups active at the grass roots of Pakistani society. Though Pakistan was created as a haven for Muslims, it was secular at first, and did not harden into an Islamic state on paper until 1949. Intellectuals point to the moment as a kind of original sin, when Islam became embedded in the country’s democratic blueprint, handing immense power to Islamic hard-liners, who could claim — despite their small numbers — to be the true guardians of the state. Together with military and political leaders, these groups wield Islamic slogans for personal gain, further shutting down discussion. “We’re in this mess because political forces evoke Islam to further their own interests,” said Aasim Sajjad, an assistant professor of political economy at Quaid-i-Azam University in Islamabad. Lawyers in Pakistan have a strong streak of political Islam. Mr. Habib, who has had militants as clients, argues that Al Qaeda is an American invention. Their pronouncements are infused with anti-Semitism, standard for Islamic groups in the region. “The lobbies are the Jews, maybe some Indians, working in the inner core of the American administration,” said Muhammad Ikram Chaudhry, vice president of the bar association. Liberals on Pakistan’s beleaguered left see the xenophobic patriotism and conspiracy theories as a defense mechanism that deflects all responsibility for society’s problems and protects against a reality that is too painful to face. “It’s deny, deny, deny,” said Nadeem F. Paracha, a columnist for Dawn, an English-language daily. “It’s become second nature, like an instinct.” Mr. Paracha argues that the denial is dangerous because it hobbles any form of public conversation — for example, about Mr. Shahzad’s upper-class background — leaving society unequipped to find remedies for its problems. “We’ve started to believe our own lies,” he said. For those on the left, that view obscures an increasingly disappointing history. For 62 years, Pakistan has lurched from one self-serving government to the next, with little thought given to education or the economy, said Pervez Hoodbhoy, a physics professor at Quaid-i-Azam University. Now Pakistan is dependent on the West to pay its bills, a vulnerable position that breeds resentment. “We acknowledge to ourselves privately that Pakistan is a client state of the U.S.,” Mr. Hoodbhoy said. “But on the other hand, the U.S. is acting against Muslim interests globally. A sort of self-loathing came about.” There are very real reasons for Pakistanis to be skeptical of the United States. It encouraged — and financed — jihadis waging a religious war against the Soviets in the 1980s, while supporting the military autocrat Mohammed Zia ul-Haq, who seeded Pakistan’s education system with Islamists. But Mr. Hamid is more interested in the larger plot, like the secret ownership of the Federal Reserve, which he found on the Internet. After three years of fame, his star seems to be falling. This month his show was canceled, and he has had to rely on Facebook and audio CDs to make his points. But it is not the end of the conspiracy. “Someone else will be front row very soon,” said Manan Ahmed, a professor of Pakistani history. “It is the mood of the country at the moment.” Salman Masood contributed reporting. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/26/world/asia/26pstan.html?ref=world&pagewanted=all Seems like they'll blame the US regardless of what we do.