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Blazers & Moneyball

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by hooroo, Jun 17, 2007.

  1. hooroo

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    http://www.columbian.com/sports/localNews/06172007news154662.cfm
     
  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    What if Durant was coming straight out of HS? How the hell could they judge him then when playing against such weak opposition. What if Alondo Tucker had played for Blinn JUCO and averaged 45ppg on 60% shooting? What about Maggette not even getting starters minutes at Duke? They better not get too carried away with this mumbo jumbo...

    Statistical analysis can keep you from becoming a bad team if done right. I don't think it means it will make you a contender.
     
  3. sun12

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    They use it as supplements.

    Look, Daniel Gibson was ranked highly, this method could identify late-round talents which would be great.
     
  4. Easy

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    No Rudy Gay?
     
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    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    if rudy gay was on the list, morey would've had the rockets draft him. he wasn't and so moneyball morey told the rockets to trade the pick rather than reach down for a guy like cedrick cimmons who was picked #15.
     
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    That's why you counter it with scouting. Nobody's saying they're relying completely on the numbers. You just leave no stone unturned -- you have a year to prepare for the Draft and all of Vulcan's resources. Use them.
     
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    I know. I was being sarcastic. I figured Gay wouldn't be very high on moneyball value, or else they wouldn't have traded the pick away.
     
  8. hooroo

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    morey would have his own secret formula, different results to the list above.
     
  9. SamFisher

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    this article would be better if it listed the PER and +/- metrics of the players ranked by protrade from last year, and those of higher drafted lower ranked players - all the data is publicly available, lazy bum
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    How do they justify selecting Aldridge again with the numbers?
     
  11. KellyDwyer

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    You can tell just by the writer's take on Adam Morrison that he really isn't up on any of that.

    Morrison made the All-Rookie team because he was given 30 minutes a game (29.9) and allowed 12.1 shots to score 11.8 points per game. Per-minute, the guy was like the 30th best rookie I'd guess.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    If that is the kind of journalism that we can expect from clark county, WA's leading print standard then the fourth estate is truly doomed.
     
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    Yeah, I like how the article says moneyball is "bias-free", even though quotes from Pritchard and Ma later on don't support that. Nothing, especially quantitative analysis, is bias-free. However, good analysts recognizes some of the potential biases of their analytical methods, and try to compensate. That's what the Blazers and other NBA teams are doing by using moneyball to complement traditional scouting.
     

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