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Blacks Rally for Slave Reparations

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by MovieManiac, Aug 18, 2002.

  1. MovieManiac

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    OK does this mean that Oj gets to have his hand out tooo?.
    Lets not forget the thousands of black Athletes who make up most of professional sports.....

    THIS IS DUMB



    Blacks Rally for Slave Reparations

    By JANELLE CARTER
    .c The Associated Press

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Hundreds of blacks rallied in front of the Capitol on Saturday to demand slavery reparations, saying that compensation is long overdue for the ills of that institution.

    ``It seems that America owes black people a lot for what we have endured,'' Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan told the crowd. ``We cannot settle for some little jive token. We need millions of acres of land that black people can build.''

    ``We're not begging white people,'' said Farrakhan, one of several speakers at a rally organizers billed as ``Millions for Reparations.'' ````We are just demanding what is justly ours.''

    While Farrakhan and Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., did attend, many major names in the black civil rights movement were absent, including the Rev. Jesse Jackson and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

    ``The people on the ground are the ones we want to give exposure to,'' said one speaker, Hannibal Afrik, 68, of Port Gibson, Miss. ``If it's grounded in the people, it will be victorious.''

    Conyers, who has proposed a commission to study the institution of slavery for the past 13 years, urged the crowd to pressure Congress.

    ``Only the Congress can do what we want done,'' Conyers said. Lawmakers are now on their summer break until September.

    The reparations movement has gained momentum in the past year.

    Earlier this year, a group of slave descendants sued three companies, claiming the companies - or their corporate predecessors - unjustly profited from slavery.

    The Reparations Coordinating Committee, which includes many prominent attorneys and scholars, is working on a separate lawsuit against the federal government.

    Those at the rally said it was time for action.

    ``They owe us. I want justice,'' said Antoinette Harrell-Miller, who drove 19 hours from New Orleans with her husband Dennis to attend. ``They built this country off the free labor of our ancestors.''

    Jaki Mungai of Philadelphia called the rally ``a dream that's starting to come true.''

    ``Every other group has been compensated for the wrongs done against them. Africans in America - we are the only ones who haven't,'' said Mungai, who heard about the rally on the radio and decided to join in.

    Ken McDouall of Durham, N.C., one of a handful of whites at the rally, said the reparations issue ``cuts to the core of the history of injustice of America.''

    ``America likes to pretend there are equal rights for everyone but look at the history of black people,'' McDouall said.
     
  2. Htownhero

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    Look man, if you don't think it's a good idea, then tell us why. Don't be an ******* and call something a lot of people feel strongly about "DUMB".
     
  3. DCkid

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    Yeah, I was on the Mall yesterday and listened to it for a little while (not that I really wanted too, but you could hear it all the way from the Monument). They made some good points about suing some of the companies that have profited (and are still profiting) from slave labor, like some of the railroads who used slaves to lay down track. I guess suing some of these companies makes more sense to me than just having the government give a check for something that happened over a hundred years ago, while penalizing people who had nothing to do with it by using their taxes to fund it. Then of course, <b>legally</b>, those companies were not in the wrong since it wasn't legal to have slaves at the time.

    I don't know what to make of it. It's hard for me to think it's much else than some people wanting some extra money. I mean, who wouldn't want some free money? Other than that, I don't see it improving race relations or anything like that. In fact, I see it having more of a negative effect due to the resentment that will be felt by many non-blacks. Just my small (and probably uninformed) opinion.

    Wasn't there just a big thread on this a couple days ago?
     
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  4. DaDakota

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    This is the DUMBEST thing I have ever read.

    What a crock, thank god we have a statute of limitations. At some point in history every single one of us has had their ancestors conquered and enslaved.

    This ended over 137 years ago, not one single slave is alive, and not one single slave owner is alive either.

    This is just a ploy for attention and an attempt at some free cash.

    Heck, I am 1/4 American Indian and I qualify for over $1500 a month from the tribal casino but I choose not to take it because the other 3/4ths of me is European and I don't need the money nor deserve it.

    Neither do these people.

    Louis Farakan is looking more and more like the moron that he is....

    DaDakota

    PS. I would be in favor of paying for anyone who wants to move back to the motherland, let's see who takes us up on that.....SHEESH !!!
     
  5. Prempeh

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    Now THAT'S the dumbest thing I've ever heard. People grow up watching pro athletes and the Cosby show and assume that all black people are loaded because they're all jocks, lawyers and doctors.

    That ain't the case, people.

    Things aren't "balanced" like they should be, and it's not because of laziness or lack of motivation. If you don't know why they aren't balanced, then you can't see outside of your own bank account.

    I'm not going to go back into this cause it's been hashed out fairly recently, and besides, every time I try to argue with DaDa on any issue my neck ends up being sore from snapping my head too far to the right to address him.
    :)
     
  6. BrianKagy

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    I think we should enact reparations, but we should make the entire thing voluntary. If you feel like you owe somebody something, for anything, you should pony up whatever cash you think would even the slate. Hopefully that will assuage your guilt.

    And if you feel like you're owed something, you should be able to ask for it-- for however much you think will even things out.

    In this country, nowadays, we'd have about 250 million people in the latter category and no one, other than maybe the handful of whites at the rally yesterday, in the former.

    Anyway, once we have everyone's name down in a category-- no abstaining, you either owe or you're owed-- then we'll appoint a federal commission to link up the aggrieved with the guilt-ridden. Those of you with your hands out will get a phone number, and you can then call the guilt-ridden and explain what you need, why you think you're entitled to it, and the best method of payment.

    I think we can have the whole thing knocked out within the next two years.

    I'll start. I don't owe any****ingbody any****ingthing-- well, except for Discover Card and they have better methods than rallying on the Mall to collect-- so I'm not paying. I guess you can put me down in the aggrieved category. My mother's side of the family mined coal in the 19th century. The treatment of coal miners was awful, and despite the obvious expiration of the statute of limitation on damages and the fact that such treatment was legal under the laws of the day, I believe I have what passes for a credible claim.

    So hit me up. If any of you end up in the guilt-ridden category, email me and we'll discuss how I can get my pound of flesh out of you.
     
  7. Sonny

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    Could any of the bbs' historians refresh my memory of 'the Moors'.
     
  9. Refman

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    Reparations would extract money from those who did nothing wrong. Talk about deficit spending BTW.

    There were whites whose families weren't here until after slavery.

    There were Irish who were being told not to apply for jobs in Boston when slavery was happening...I'm guessing they didn't have slaves.

    And what about the whites who spilled their blood in the Civil War which culminated in freeing the slaves? No reparations for their blood? Nope...I guess they actually have to PAY as well.

    The only thing missing from this shakedown is Tony Soprano.
     
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    I agree with your post - but just out of curiosity: What is the tribal casino?
     
  11. DaDakota

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    Chiles,

    My grandmother was a full blooded Indian, and the tribe that she belonged to runs a Casino in Iowa, anyone whose blood is more then 1/8th of this particular tribe qualifies for profit sharing from the casino that it operates.

    DD
     
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    It would suprise you to know that I am more of an issue person then a conservative or liberal, it depends on the issues.

    :)

    DD
     
  13. Sonny

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    Da - which tribe is it?

    I think my dad was 1/8 Cherokee - I am 1/16 then right? Maybe that is why I have a bad temper sometimes? :)
     
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    What is a 'jive' token? Can you get those at Showbiz Pizza?
     
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    Yes. For a mere 1300 tickets.
     
  17. Timing

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    Originally posted by DaDakota
    This is the DUMBEST thing I have ever read.

    I guess you don't read many of your own posts.

    What a crock, thank god we have a statute of limitations.

    Yes what is the statute of limitations on murder and kidnapping?

    This is just a ploy for attention and an attempt at some free cash.

    Your posts in these threads are always a ploy for attention. Stamp your feet and cry.

    PS. I would be in favor of paying for anyone who wants to move back to the motherland, let's see who takes us up on that.....SHEESH !!!

    Now that's mighty kind of you. Thanks for your help in building the wealthiest nation on Earth, here is your plane ticket "home". Maybe Native Americans will give you a similar offer. I'm sure you'll be all over that.
     
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    Why don't we just make all taxes voluntary. I sure don't feel I want my tax money funding Israel or Egypt. I also wasn't part of Japanese internment so I want my share back on that too. Um, yeah.

    I think all of you should begin to realize that this subject is not going away until it's addressed by Congress in some constructive manner. This is going to happen one day.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Timing, what did I do to you? I am 1/4 Native American my man, so your point is......what exactly???????

    Also, most of the slaves were not kidnapped or murdered by Americans but were legally purchased from other tribes in Africa....barbaric but true.

    I agree, anyone that was a slave should be entitled to reparations, the point is that NOT one of them is still alive, and not ONE slave owner is still alive too.

    So, exactly who is entitled to reparations, since no one living has been a slave in this country?

    Our country has made mistakes, no question, but it is ridiculous to be talking about this 137 years AFTER the fact.

    I wasn't there, you weren' t there, NO ONE LIVING was there.

    It is a simple cash grab, I am all about common sense and this makes NONE of that.

    DD
     
  20. DaDakota

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    Yep becuase some greedy DUMB F$%KS will always want a hand out for something they had no part in.

    I can hear Farakhan now...."Pssst hey everyone, let's jump on this slave reparations kick, with this oversensitive PC movement we might actually get some money out of this. Who is with me?"

    It is frivolous lawsuits like the one against the fast food companies and the many for slave reparations that make TORT reform look really really good.

    DD
     

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