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BioShock 2, Assassin's Creed 2, Bayonetta, and FF7 PS3

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Some new stuff for these games this week (mostly in the last 24 hours or so).

We got a BioShock 2 gameplay trailer (maybe minor spoilers?):

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There was a GameInformer feature a while back. In case you missed it, I think Wikipedia does an OK job of mentioning the main things about the plot and gameplay (again, maybe minor spoilers):

Set ten years after the events of BioShock, a number of towns around the world have been reporting kidnappings of young girls by attackers described as "thin", with red lights often reported as either being worn by the attacker or spotted nearby in the sea. This single attacker, who is the Big Sister, one of the Little Sisters from the first entry in the series, has mechanised herself in a similar fashion to the Big Daddies — and has become the ruler of the underwater city of Rapture, which under her control has reached an equilibrium in which she "actively maintains the city's infrastructure, and viciously hunts anyone down who disrupts the balance of power"; Tenenbaum, discoverer of ADAM and original creator of the Little Sisters, states that the Big Sister has begun kidnapping girls and turning them "into creatures... like her".
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Regarding the gameplay:

The player will take the role of the first Big Daddy ever created in Rapture, who has seemingly survived the events of the first game. As such, the Big Daddy's drill and rivet gun will be weapons that the player may use, but will overheat if used constantly. Alternatively, the player may also use plasmids, and their effects have been changed, while "upgrade trees" will provide unique ways to upgrade plasmids. A new feature added is the ability to dual-wield plasmids and weapons at the same time. Further Big Daddy abilities found in the first game, such as performing a shoulder dash, will also be an option. The player will also be able to step outside Rapture into the ocean due to the diving suit they wear. The Big Sister also appears to be a very serious threat to the player. When a certain number of Big Daddies are killed she will attack. Unlike the Big Daddies, she is lightning quick and arguably more powerful, able to extract ADAM from her enemies through a harvesting needle on her left arm, straight into her bloodstream, which fuels "telekinetic abilities beyond anything previously thought possible".

As a "rogue" Big Daddy, players will attempt to capture the Little Sisters from other Big Daddies who roam Rapture. Once caught, the player will again have the option of choosing the fate of the Little Sisters. Harvesting remains a possibility in order to gain more ADAM, but rather than rescuing the Little Sister, players will instead be allowed to adopt them. With this option, Little Sisters will ride around with the player's Big Daddy, and will look for ADAM to harvest from corpses; in a manner similar to the museum area of the first game, the player will then need to ensure that splicers will not harm the Little Sister as the harvesting process takes place. Rescuing, while not initially an option for the player, will become available at some point in the game. Additionally the Little Sisters will also warn the player when the Big Sister is approaching.

Returning features from the first game include the ability for the player to regenerate (though not by the use of Vita-Chambers), and audio diaries. In addition to the single-player story, multiplayer will be a feature in BioShock 2, but this will not take the form of co-operative play.
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I think the Assassin's Creed 2 teaser site was launched this week. I haven't had a chance to check it out, but AC2 is in the latest issue of GameInformer I believe. Details:

- You'll have a ton of new weapons to choose from including an axe, a hammer, a mace, a spear, 2 different sword types, a spear axe thing, and 2 smaller blades
- You CAN swim
- Da Vincis workshop is in the game
- Locations include Saint Marks Basilica, The Grand Canal, The Little Canal, and the Rialto bridge.
- The game opens in 1476, Altair is from 1191
- So you do indeed play as a new ancestor of Altair / Desmond
-You will see the countryside of Tuscany
- The "Auditore" family is mentioned
- The main characters name is Ezio Auditore de Firenze
- He is a nobleman of Florence
- Big characters are in the game including Machiavelli, Caterina Sofrza, and Lorenzo de Medici
- YOU DO INDEED FLY AND THERES A PICTURE OF IT.
and thats just what I got from the pictures. I'll let you know more details as I read more.
- Game will feature a new notoriety system that governs how enemy soldiers and people will treat you.
- You can disarm enemies and use their own weapons against them this time.
- each weapon has a special move.
- 16 unique mission types.
- No more ease dropping or pick pocketing missions.
- If you get beat up to much you will need to see a street side doctor to regain ful strength.
- Hidden objects (like flags in the first one) are there to uncover but this time if you track them down you will get in-game bonuses that make it worth your time.
- Items include, flags, statues, and gold coins and more that isnt mentioned.
- New enemy types with unique attitudes and weaknesses are present in the game. Archers are mentioned, as well as elite enemies, dagger wielders, "Brutish" armored troops with heavy armor and 2 handed swords and axes, and an intelligent halberd enemy will probe hiding places with their weapons if they think you're near by.
- While hiding in a hay bail you can assassinate people this time, but it may expose your position.
- You can still climb towers and ride horses
- The Lorendo de Medici assassination is in the game.
- There is now a night and day sequence in the game.
- 240 people are working on this title.
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Don't know if you guys have heard of this game (can't remember if it was ever mentioned here?), but Bayonetta is new action game made by the DMC director/creator. New Trailer:
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Finally, FF7 for the PS3 is now a reality. I'm talking about the PSN release of the PS1 version (what else would I mean?). It went up on the Japanese PSN this morning I believe. Of course...it will never make it to the US store. Yeah, I'm just using this as another excuse to continue complaining about the lack of PS1 downloads.

#1 RC Cola, Apr 10, 2009

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Finally, FF7 for the PS3 is now a reality. I'm talking about the PSN release of the PS1 version (what else would I mean?). It went up on the Japanese PSN this morning I believe. Of course...it will never make it to the US store. Yeah, I'm just using this as another excuse to continue complaining about the lack of PS1 downloads.
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OMG what are you talking about. What is PSN?

As far as FF7 goes, I know FF7: Advent Children Complete is coming out soon in Japan, along with some novel "Along with a Smile" that focuses on Denzel. They're really trying to milk this compilation (AND YET NO REMAKE!?). If you saw the bonus ending of Dirge of Cerberus (DOC), it suggests there will be another game that takes place after DOC, with Genesis being a major character.

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PSN = PlayStation Network.

Square-Enix put up the PS1 version of FF7 on the PSN in Japan. So for $15 (I think?), you can and play it on your PS3 (and/or your PSP).

But as I mentioned, I have doubts that it will be released on the US Store. Square-Enix and other publishers have released a bunch of PS1 games in Japan, but many of them don't make it to the US (MGS, RE, Xenogears, etc.).

On a related note, I believe the FF7AC re-release is out next week in Japan (16th IIRC?). I think I might make a thread about it, although mostly/entirely because it comes with a demo of FF13.

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Bayonetta is probably the only game I'm really interested in that list

Bioshock was fun but I never finished it, but the supposed multiplayer for 2 could be interesting

Same with AC

FF7 never played lol, wasn't a console guy back then and I'm not sure I can handle graphics that old today, plus it's only on the japanese PSN

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dback816 said:

Bayonetta is probably the only game I'm really interested in that list

Bioshock was fun but I never finished it, but the supposed multiplayer for 2 could be interesting

Same with AC

FF7 never played lol, wasn't a console guy back then and I'm not sure I can handle graphics that old today, plus it's only on the japanese PSN
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I finished and loved both Bioshock and Assassin's Creed. I'm looking forward to the sequels.

FF7 was available on PC. That's how I played it.

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Anyword on a release date for AC2?

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FF7 was available on PC. That's how I played it.
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That's actually how I first played it too. Played a PC demo, then realized I really wanted the game. I did the whole "mowing lawns" thing and was going to get the PC version, but that somehow evolved into getting a PS1 to play the PS1 version.

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Anyword on a release date for AC2?
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Supposed to be out before the start of Ubisoft's next FY IIRC. So hopefully by March 2010. I'm guessing they'll try to target a late 2009 release (November?) though. Especially if 240+ people are working on it.

I haven't really followed it all too well, so there might be updated info about the release.

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RC Cola said:

PSN = PlayStation Network.

Square-Enix put up the PS1 version of FF7 on the PSN in Japan. So for $15 (I think?), you can and play it on your PS3 (and/or your PSP).

But as I mentioned, I have doubts that it will be released on the US Store. Square-Enix and other publishers have released a bunch of PS1 games in Japan, but many of them don't make it to the US (MGS, RE, Xenogears, etc.).
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This is ridiculous. Do you reasonably foresee it coming to the US PS store if there is an outcry from fans, etc?

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This is ridiculous. Do you reasonably foresee it coming to the US PS store if there is an outcry from fans, etc?
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It sure as hell would be nice if they'd bring FF7 to the American PSN store. It would be profitable for Sony, it would give people who hadn't played it an opportunity to do so without shelling out $60 for a used copy with no case, AND it may even help build more support for a remake.

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I don't think outcry would really change their mind. People have been complaining about this stuff for a while, but things haven't really changed. I understand it is probably a little more complicated than we might think, but it shouldn't be that difficult. Plus free money and all that good stuff. Of course, FF7 is a bit of a different animal...although then again, it isn't like MGS and RE are unpopular in the US either.

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AND it may even help build more support for a remake.
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...then again, looking at Nomura right now, maybe they want to keep support on the low-end so they don't have to dig right into a remake right now. Nomura looks like zombie right now as it is:

(guess it might help if you've seen him before)

Also:

(some more pics like this, but I was debating whether I would save them for the FF7AC/FF13 thread).

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I finished and loved both Bioshock and Assassin's Creed. I'm looking forward to the sequels.

FF7 was available on PC. That's how I played it.
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Do you still have FF7 for PC? I'm looking for a copy so I can play!

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I'm hoping because of the popularity/notoriety of FF7 that an outcry will at least leave us with a valid reason why we can never seem to get any good games in the PS1 Classics section of the store. I can understand why MGS1 isn't in there because it can still easily be found in stores in the MGS Collection package, so the outcry for that may be less compared to FF7. I dunno, I feel like I say it in every thread when these things come up, but it would be so awesome to basically have a collection of some of the best PS1 games available on my PS3 in perpetuity.

At least with NES/SNES games, you can always use an emulator if you are feeling like playing one, but unless you have the original discs or pay a decent amount of a used copy, you are basically out of luck if you want to play any of the amazing PS1 games.

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I think a lot of gamers feel that way. But personally, I've pretty much given up hope for the most part. I can't believe I once thought that we'd eventually get a good collection of PS2 classics on the PSN.

Geez....I just glanced through some of the PS1 games released in Japan. Really depressing stuff.

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FF7 was available on PC. That's how I played it.
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That's how I played it too. I found the CDs for sale at a garage sale

Bioshock is one of my favorite games. Can't wait for the next one!

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I'm hoping because of the popularity/notoriety of FF7 that an outcry will at least leave us with a valid reason why we can never seem to get any good games in the PS1 Classics section of the store. I can understand why MGS1 isn't in there because it can still easily be found in stores in the MGS Collection package, so the outcry for that may be less compared to FF7. I dunno, I feel like I say it in every thread when these things come up, but it would be so awesome to basically have a collection of some of the best PS1 games available on my PS3 in perpetuity.

At least with NES/SNES games, you can always use an emulator if you are feeling like playing one, but unless you have the original discs or pay a decent amount of a used copy, you are basically out of luck if you want to play any of the amazing PS1 games.
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Is the old FF for PS1 that rare? I picked up FF7 and FF8 2 years ago at a sam goody going out of business sale for $15 each. Guess I was luck

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Is the old FF for PS1 that rare? I picked up FF7 and FF8 2 years ago at a sam goody going out of business sale for $15 each. Guess I was luck
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I guess it really depends on where you live and how lucky you get. I haven't seen it in any store in my city, and I always look for FF7 and Xenogears just to see if I'll get lucky.

I traded in all my old PS1 games back in 2002 before I left for college. It blows my mind that I could've made hundreds of dollars selling them on ebay now instead of turning them in for store credit back then.

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Assassin's Creed 2 sounds to be fixing a lot of the issues from part 1 and sounds absolutely fantastic. I loved the setting in the first game and the setting in the second game looks just as good (Venice FTW!)

An episode of screwattack seems to have some more screens of Assassin's Creed 2 that look great!

http://www.screwattack.com/HardNews/041009

Also, might as well post some news about Fight Night Round 4 here too since we are talking about new games. A couple videos and pictures that really show the improvements over Round 3:

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14235163/fight-night-round-4/videos/fightnight4_trl_physics_040609.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47830.html

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Do you still have FF7 for PC? I'm looking for a copy so I can play!
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I might but I have no idea where they are right now. I remember that it only works up to a certain point on later operating systems. I tried playing it on either the ME or 2000 and it only made it through 1/3 of the game before it wouldn't go any further. I searched on the net and it's the same for everybody else. It just wasn't compatible with newer OS's. Maybe it would work on XP or Vista but I don't know.

I had similar problems with some the Myst games. I actually had downgrade my quicktime to get those to work.

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I'm hoping because of the popularity/notoriety of FF7 that an outcry will at least leave us with a valid reason why we can never seem to get any good games in the PS1 Classics section of the store. I can understand why MGS1 isn't in there because it can still easily be found in stores in the MGS Collection package, so the outcry for that may be less compared to FF7. I dunno, I feel like I say it in every thread when these things come up, but it would be so awesome to basically have a collection of some of the best PS1 games available on my PS3 in perpetuity.

At least with NES/SNES games, you can always use an emulator if you are feeling like playing one, but unless you have the original discs or pay a decent amount of a used copy, you are basically out of luck if you want to play any of the amazing PS1 games.
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They do have Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on PSN. That game's awesome. I also enjoy Twisted Metal 2. But yeah... not much good on there really.

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Is the old FF for PS1 that rare? I picked up FF7 and FF8 2 years ago at a sam goody going out of business sale for $15 each. Guess I was luck
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I guess it really depends on where you live and how lucky you get. I haven't seen it in any store in my city, and I always look for FF7 and Xenogears just to see if I'll get lucky.

I traded in all my old PS1 games back in 2002 before I left for college. It blows my mind that I could've made hundreds of dollars selling them on ebay now instead of turning them in for store credit back then.
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The cheapest you can find a copy of FF7 online is generally $50, and that's with no case or instructions. Tack on another $20 if it has instructions, case, and is in decent shape.

It really is amazing what you can make selling these old games now. Makes me think I should never trade my games in ever again. Wait long enough, and they quadruple the value you'd get from trading them in now...

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Well, the lack of PS1 titles on the North American PSN is attributed to the different legal/licensing procedures Sony has to go through to get them out.

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