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Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tigermission1, Dec 24, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

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    http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5580743/detail.html

    Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place

    Citizens Would Also Have To Show ID

    CLEVELAND -- A bill on Gov. Bob Taft's desk right now is drawing a lot of criticism, NewsChannel5 reported.

    One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio's small towns and big cities.

    The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

    WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID.

    "It brings us frighteningly close to a show me your papers society," said Carrie Davis of the ACLU, which opposes the Ohio Patriot Act.

    There are many others who oppose the bill as well.

    "The variety of people who opposed to this is not just a group of the usual suspects. We have people far right to the left opposing the bill who think it is a bad idea," said Al McGinty, NewsChannel5’s terrorism expert.

    McGinty said he isn't sure the law would do what it's intended to do.

    "I think anything we do to enhance security and give power to protect the public to police officers is a good idea," he said. "It is a good law in the wrong direction."

    Gov. Bob Taft will make the ultimate decision on whether to sign the bill.

    WEWS was told that Taft is expected to sign the bill into law, but legal experts expect that it will be challenged in courts.
     
  2. Rule0001

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  3. thadeus

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    Three cheers for impending fascism?

    Don't worry - it could never happen here.
     
  4. glynch

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    Yawn. You all are against this, just because Taft is a Republican.

    The paper is reporting on this just to embarass our Commander in Chief since he is a Republican, too, as the liberal media always does. You don't support our troops.

    Besides if you aren't doing anthing bad, why would you worry about this?

    We got our guns if the government gets too far out of line. Not to worry.

    Any good sports on TV today?
     
  5. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Also, they keep asking to see some ID whenever I buy beer, the fascists. :p
     
  6. Oski2005

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    I suppose that is exactly the same thing...
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    As long as ANY citizen can ask the law officer to show his ID at ANY time, then it is ok with me.

    Come on, this is ridiculous !!

    We are a free society, and should not have to show ANYONE our ID if we don't want to.....

    I understand driving a car, but this SCREAMS of Nazi Germany......Papers please....show me your papers !!

    This has gone to far.......We need a severe swing to the left to get rid of this McCarthism that is going around.

    NEWSFLASH !!! None of this will make anyone one iota safer.......not one...it just infringes on the common citizen's rights.

    DD
     
  8. SWTsig

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    wasn't mccarthyism a severe swing to the left in it's own right?

    no wait..... communism=left, facism=right.

    what were we talking about again?

    :confused:
     
  9. langal

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    Is there any way this 'law" would survive in the courts?

    I'd like to think that the American system would prevent such bills from being enacted into law.

    Is Ohio a hotbed of terrorism? I wonder what the rationale is.
     
  10. Kam

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    ill save everybody the trouble.


    RETARTED



    Seriously though. I agree, if you aren't doing anything wrong or illegal, then you got nothing to worry about.

    But then this happens to you every freaking day, because some punk wants to harrass you or something. Yeah, that might get tiring.


    And when they ask you to show ID when you buy beer, it's because they want to make sure you are not a terrorist, because all terrorist are muslim, and muslims don't drink beer.


    Put some fresh batteries in btw.
     
  11. wnes

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    Somebody ought to write a book entitled "What's the Matter with Ohio?", a sequel to Thomas Frank's "What's the Matter with Kansas?"

    Bob Taft has been rated the Worst Governor in the U.S. for the last several months or so, mostly from the breakout of his paid golf outings with business executives. Although this may not be the brainchild of Taft, it'd be interesting to see if he signs the controversial bill into law, intending to divert attention from his personal troubles.

    On a side note, methinks the name WEWS is a serious infringement of the copyright of my moniker. :mad:
     
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    So everyone's presumed to be a minor now?
     
  13. Sishir Chang

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    So when do we start arresting people for refusing to show their ID when they order a beer?
     
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    And if you left your ID at home you go to jail? Wonderful!
     
  15. Rocket River

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    and here I thought our courts were filled with 'frivolous lawsuits'

    Rocket River
     
  16. hotballa

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    what about this article is bad? They do this in almost every other country in the world.
     
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    Other than Israel, where else is this commonplace? I've lived in Europe, Asia and the Middle East, and never once have I been asked for ID in public or neither have I just been arrested for minding my own business.
     
  18. thadeus

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    Gotta go with Mr. Brightside on this - I lived in Europe, and was never asked to show my ID. Not a single time.
     
  19. hotballa

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    For one thing they do this in Asia. And I've always been told that they could do this in Europe or any country where the immigration laws arent as strict as the US.
     

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