Bill White Wants to Strip City Employees of their Pensions

When are you moving?

 

Where's the mayor when you need him?

 

Jorge is so partisan , that he will even pose as a supporter of employee pensions for government workers if he thinks it helps the GOP somehow.

Sam, I think we have found another example of Jorge, soon to be Trader Raj, shirking in his stand as a defender of elite privilege.

Next thing Jorge might even stop getting kicks from humilitating waitresses and secretaries with his vaunted "psychological tactics".

Now to a type of response that the partisan fanatic Jorge would never make.

I disagree with White on this, if he is trying to get out of paying the pensions already accrued and promised to city workers. It is not clear to me exactly what he wants a referendum on.

 

NEWSFLASH!!!!!

TRADER_JORGE WANTS TO POST BULLSH*T ON THIS BBS!!!

NEWS AT 11!!!!

 

So, I guess you disagree with the recall in California?

 

where am i??? i think this is a very conservative measure, TJ...an appropriate one, as well. he's cutting govt spending by saying that what was once promised by a past administration simply can not be delivered. particularly not without massive property tax increases which our local economy simply can't bear.

i can not imagine why you, in particular, would disagree with this course of action. looks like leadership to me.

 

This news speaks to Brown as a mayor far more than White. It sounds like White is trying to clean up the mess. The deal for city pensions is a hell of a lot better than State Retirement... which is outstanding as long as Perry and friends keep their dirty little paws off of it. I think you have a decent topic to post about , T_J, but you're just aiming at the wrong mayor... make that ex-mayor.

 

Blame Brown, Blame Brown, Everybody Blame Brown.

I think I'm going to write a hip-hop Krunk song with that as the chorus

 

No one is stopping you.

 

Because his middle name is partisan. Bill White could **** countless gold bricks into everyone's hands and he'd be complaining about the smell.

 

I don't want to pay the 2 billion needed to give 100% pension to retired city employees. I'm glad White is putting it to the vote.

I blame Brown.

-- droxford

 

It tells me that he is trying everything he can think of to repair the damage done to city coffers by his predecessors without raising taxes.

I am very fiscally conservative, and vote Republican (voted for Orlando Sanchez). But give the Mayor a fair shake. Laying in wait and trying to stir up crap whenever you can isn't going to help make this city any better or fix any of the problems.

I am a conservative...you are merely a shill.

 

90%????

Screw that.

Even with my aggressive retirement planning and spending plan I dont expect to be making more in retirement than I make in my working years. Or at least I can't guarantee it, like these guys can.

Cut the cord, Mayor.

 

I posted this last week in a thread that died so I felt it worth posting again w/ the latest Chronical article.

fact 1:
An independant consultant firm, Tower Perrin, wrote the pension plan.

fact 2:
The consultant firm was hired by the pension board, which is controlled by employees and retirees...not the mayor.

fact 3:
City council voted on and approved the pension package in 2001.

fact 4:
Mayor Brown only has one vote in city council.

fact 5:
Towers Perrin revised their figures and offered dramitically different figures than in 2001. Nobody forsaw the problems.

Mayor Brown and all of Houston was duped into this thing. That was obvious to me after reading the original stories that surfaced. But the blame Brown camp was dancing in the streets.

And now the front page of the Chron seems to point out these facts. Facts...hard to dispute...but people try.

 

Again, you show your near total lack of reading comprehension. First of all, the very articla you cite says that police and firefighter's pension palns are in much better financial shape than the main employees plan. Second, they are not talking about stripping anyone's retirement plan from them, they are talking about making sure that the pension plan meets fiscal responsibility requirements.

It is really all about the person, not the policy to you, huh?

 

Not to mention the fact that it isn't like we are talking about forcing them to beg in the streets. We simply realize that guaranteeing them 90% of their salary is ludicrous.

 

Thanks, krosfyah, for the info. So that's what happened? The city... nobody checked the numbers of the pension plan before they voted on it? In Austin, something like this would have to be approved on three separate votes of the city council before it could pass, which normally leaves plenty of time for review. That's a pretty crazy scenario. Wow, and some people here think the Austin City Council is crazy.

 

No kidding, this is the fiscally responsible thing to do and it isn't even like White can undo it all by himself. He is not circumventing the democratic process, he is using it to allow the voters to undo an irresponsible policy from breaking the city.

Looks like leadership to me, too.