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Bill Kristol: There will be an independent canidate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, May 30, 2016.

  1. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Contributing Member

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    Thoughts? [Yes, I misspelled candidate]
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    Just a heads up over this holiday weekend: There will be an independent candidate--an impressive one, with a strong team and a real chance.

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  2. Dairy Ashford

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    He always seems to grin when he's talking, bet he's a nice guy in real life; like Begala.
     
  3. Cohete Rojo

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    Since Sanders won't get the nomination, barring an indictment against Hillary by the Justice Department, he should be the one running as an independent.
     
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    Yeah but there's already 2 liberal options, if someone ran as an independent they'd probably be a conservative.
     
  5. Invisible Fan

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    I've read from wonk blogs weeks ago that it was too late to set up an independent candidate with the proper 50 state logistics like registration and volunteers.

    It'll be interesting but doubtful.
     
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    Bloomberg is the only one that makes sense...or he is teasing some sort of bs story about the libertarian party.
     
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    I bet Gary Johnson does well
     
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    He won't win a single state.
     
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    They missed out on Texas. Texas being one of the few states Trump got smashed in. So that theory and this thread is silly.
     
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    #feeltheJohnson.
     
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    I think it would offer thinking conservatives an alternative. They don't have to be any part of the upcoming argument which will be (look at what your side nominated referring to Trump). Now they can say no, I supported (third party conservative candidate).

    That's a minimum. Nobody will have to say they supported a candidate who made committing war crimes part of their foreign policy. They can still choose to support that candidate if they want, but they don't have to.

    At best, it can be the start of a new conservative party in the United States that replaces what became of the Republican party.

    In the middle, it sends a message to the current Republican party and any future "Trump-type" candidate that their type of politics won't be successful.

    To me that's the real threat of a Trump candidacy. Is that if successful, it will breed more like him.

    The Gary Johnson libertarian candidacy is odd for conservatives to vote for because Gary Johnson is all for legal weed. The VP is pretty center on gun control. So it isn't exactly a dream for traditional conservatives.
     
  12. B-Bob

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    Deez Nuts??
     
  13. Haymitch

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    Les Alexander
     
  14. Granville

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    Deez Nuts will need some support.
     
  15. Cohete Rojo

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    They can always sue. And voters can write-in such candidates.

    Ohio's independent deadline ruled as unconstitutional.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderson_v._Celebrezze

    Oh, and people like Trump love to sue.
     
  16. glynch

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    Kristol would want someone to run to suck off votes from Hillary. She is the neo-cons favorite in the election. With Trump being all over the place on elective regime change wars Kristol and his circle have made this clear.
     
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    The intent has nothing to do with winning the presidency. They want to fire up the voters so the GOP down-ballot races don't suffer horribly.
     
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    Romney would win Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, and maybe Alaska.
     
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    Since Hillary Clinton is winning the nomination, I'm sure Kristol would love to have someone run as an independent, even if it is impossible to enter in all the states, including Texas, as long as it is someone like Sanders. The GOP would love that. They'd be dancing in the streets with relief. I don't see it.

    The crap about neo-cons is more of your fantasizing, glynch. It will be a Democrat running against a Republican. Clinton versus Trump. Get used to it.
     
  20. BigDog63

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    But, from which party?

    FWIW, if, by independent, one means neither Republican or Democrat, there has been one for quite a while, the Libertarian candidate. But not really seeing them get more votes than usual, even though Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico, is actually a fairly strong candidate. But, while the Liberarian Party offers some of what those disaffected by Clinton or Trump want, it also stands for things that are against things either group would want.
     

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