Biggio v. 3000 hit club in the season they got the hit

It's pretty ugly. But so is watching Bonds on the field.

 

disgrace? who said that?

If it was someone on this board you are a huge douch and don't understand how big this is for the Astros who have little history in a game in which history is so important.

If it was media than WTF

 

apples and oranges

 

It looks like Biggio would be the worst on that list.

 

Well your research is noted and a very good idea since Biggio is struggling but if someone really thinks Biggio is a disgrace than you need to rethink things. Most baseball players screw around, jog to first on pop-ups, whine about petty things. Not Biggio, he has busted his tail for twenty years and while he has been in decline and looked terrible when put in the outfield there is nothing he has done to embarress himself or disgrace the game of baseball.

Yes this needs to be it and yes if things don't get turned around it will look bad but still 3000 freaking hits.

 

A lot of players limp out at the end of their careers. See Willie Mays, Cal Ripken. It is sad, but we should still cheer for these players everytime we get a chance. I personally can't wait to drive up to Atlanta this year to watch Biggio and I'm really hoping that he gets to play so I can see him for one last time. I've never watched an Astros game where he didn't play. Biggio's been playing with the Astros since I was 2 and I for one to be sad to see him go and I'll feel sorry for him that people that claim to be Astros fans would say some of the things that are said on this board. This season should be about saying goodbye to the greatest Astro of all time.

 

Bagwell's already retired.

 

I've always been 100% in support of Biggio being able to play often enough to get to 3000.

However, batting him leadoff against right-handers with plus stuff makes ZERO sense. Especially since the club is now playing guys like Loretta and Pence, who have shown to excel batting near the top of the lineup this season.

He'll still have some decent success against lefties, or some righties with marginal stuff... but limiting him strictly to leadoff duty when he does play, no matter who the pitcher is, isn't putting this team in the best chance to win.

At this point, he'll get to 3000 even if he's just a pinch hitter. I'm not advocating that... but he doesn't need to bat leadoff simply for the milestone to be reached.

 

Word.

 

Well said...I couldn't agree more...NOw, of course, once he gets it, I want Burke to start...

 

Is Garner batting Biggio first to avoid a murderer's row of biggio-everett-ausmus-pitcher?

 

Too bad he ranks #2 on my list.

 

You still have the same thing right now with Everett-Ausmus-pitcher-Biggio.... except that you have Biggio trying to set the table (more often than not) for Pence-Berkman-Lee (instead of getting out in front of Everett/Ausmus, where getting hits/runs is basically a pleasant surprise).

 

Agree with this. I'm still getting used to not seeing Bagwell on first base.

It would be one thing if this team was in the hunt and Biggio was holding us back, but we're not. I agree with Nick that he shouldn't bat leadoff, but I still say leave him in there until he gets the hit.

If he were batting .283 instead of .219, we would still be struggling to score runs every night. He's not the only reason we suck this year.

 

We know they bat him leadoff for two reason: Respect, and he'll get more ABs. I wish we would actually give him more off days say one game per series. (Except for in ATL where he needs to play them all so I can watch him play).

 

WHY the F*ck do you all continue to bring up other SH*T along with the 300 Hit milestone!?!?!??? If you want to do that crap, why not call it the 300 hit and everything else that goes with it milestone?

Ya'll are freakin' raining on The BGO Man's parade... I swear I hate all ya'll DEBBIE FREAKIN' DOWNERS.

F*ck. If y'all want to talk hits, then let's talk hits... if ya'll want to talk about average, then let's talk about an average... how about pitching is a lot better now than it was in 1890-something?!?!?!?

Do y'all really want to go to Cal Ripken's house and call him a nobody because he hit .25% ???? F*ck!!

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I feel a lot better now. I am glad I got that out of my shes'.

 

Let's put a couple of things in perspective.

One, Winfield, Molitor, and Murray were all permanent DH's for a couple a year by the time they got to 3000. Palmeiro, Ripken, and Brett might have been doing some platoon DHing by the time they got to 3000.

Two, only one of the last twelve 3000 hit club members has played predominantly in the NL. There is something to be said about playing the field and hitting everyday to get to 3000 hits. And Biggio will be only the 2nd National Leaguer since Lou Brock to get to 3000.

I'm pretty sure if all Biggio had to do for the last 4 or 5 years was hitting, his stats would be considerably better. His quest for 3000 is probably only the biggest statistical milestone ever for an Astros. Let's enjoy it for what it is.