Now that the Biggio and Bagwell era is unfortunately completly coming to an end who was your favorite face of the franchise?
in his prime you'd probably say bagwell, buuuuuuuuuuuuuut overall I say Biggio.....the thing about it is you really can't separate one from the other......it's kind of like Stockton and Malone, except people actually liked them.
So... which one do you prefer if Mike Scott didn't exist? SUPPOSING... supposing... ? I voted Bagwell, btw.
If I had to pick, I've got to go with the dirty jersey over the scary goatee, but really both were amazing.
Brandon Duckworth. lol jk I voted for Biggio. I forgot to put that in there. I picked Biggio over Bags because he played all over the field to the best of his ability everyday. That's my kind of guy. I mean he doesn't stop even when the play is over or he knows he's not in the play. Heck I saw him hold a runner and he didn't even have the ball. The ball was in the outfield but he faked the runner out with body language. It was a beautiful thing.
Biggio's best year versus Bagwell's best year...If you had to take only one for this year which one and in what year (for stat reference)? To me it goes to Biggio in 1998: .325 average, 50 SB, 51 Doubles, 20 Homers
True, Bagwell's 1994 year of a .368 average, 39 Homers, and 116 RBI was crazy..But I'd still take a 1998 Biggio over that because except for average,...Carlos Lee is pretty much at the HR, and RBI #'s, and what would better balance this years' team was the best year and everything involved from Biggio over Bagwell's best year... IMHO...The whole notion is silly but it gives a new angle on whether you would pick one over the other...
It was since the strike happened, but since he got hurt right before it, I have to give Biggio's 98 season my vote. Between the two of them, it's impossible. I just consider myself lucky that I was able to root for both of them for so long and in one uniform.
don't say Carlos Lee is at the HR and RBI's.. you're forgetting how many games were played! Although he did break his hand there before the end of the season.. so he likely would have only come back for the last month (or so) anyway. But still, since that didn't happen, we can extrapolate to 162 games right?
Biggio's 1998 was remarkable because it was so rare. Because only once before in the history of the game had someone hit 50 doubles and stole 50 bases. It seemed like when Biggio scored, they won...when he didn't, they didn't. He played 2B very well and was just a fantastic leadoff hitter.
I like Biggio a lot, but Bagwell was a much better player, IMO. Bagwell's last season was the only one of his career that can be considered below-average, and his 1994 was one of the greatest single seasons of all-time. Biggio is one of the best second basemen of all-time, but he was basically just an average player for the last 8 years of his career. Bagwell's numbers are even more impressive when you consider that he played in one of the most extreme pitcher's parks in MLB history. Of course Biggio played in the same park over the same period, but to me his gap power was actually aided by the dimensions of the dome since there was so much room for outfielders to cover.
Bagwell's MVP year was amazing. .370 Average, .750 slugging, .450 OBP... he was far better, that year, than anyone in baseball. He was the unanimous MVP - only the 4th time in history that's happened. I don't think you can second-guess the strike or what would have happened had the players kept playing. The fact is that, while the season was ongoing, Bags had a truly historic, Ruthian season, and nobody came anywhere close to his production that year. Biggio's 50/50 season was awesome, but he wasn't even necessarily the best player on his team. Moises Alou had a phenomenal season, Bagwell had a very solid year. Alou actually outpolled Biggio in the MVP vote that year, finishing 3rd to Biggio's 5th. I mean, Craig was great that year, but his greatness is more like Don Sutton, a great career, a hall of fame career based on longevity, but never a single season when he was the best in the league.
