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bigger give away Gasol or Artest

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by pgabriel, Jul 30, 2008.

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Who's the bigger steal Artest or Gasol

  1. Artest

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  2. Gasol

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  3. Bout even

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    17.7%
  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Pretty simple, make your own arguments, I say Gasol because he's locked up for a while, and he's a big.
     
  2. lastmanstanding

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    You can usually tell how fair a trade is by how the teams' fans respond. The Grizzlies hated it, the Kings' fans like it. So Gasol trade was way more lopsided imo.
     
  3. SladeRider

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    Artest, all Sacremento got was two late 1st round picks. They got the 28th pick in the draft and a projected pick around 25 in next years draft. Bobby Jackson's expiring contract is worthless in the trade as Artest himself is an expiring deal.

    With Gasol, Memphis got cap relief with Kwame Brown and Aaron McKie, got a young starlet in Javaris Critteton and got the draft rights to the best center in the Euroleague. They also got two late first round picks aswell.

    Basically, Artest is a bigger give away then Gasol but there will be less said about the Artest deal because the Rockets aren't on the level of the Lakers when it comes to national attention. And it didn't help that the Lakers also made it to the finals after they got Gasol, if this deal was done at the trade deadline and the Rockets got to the WCF, alot maybe made of it.

    Artest is the bigger giveaway but the media will always claim that Gasol was the bigger giveaway because it was too the Lakers.
     
  4. count_dough-ku

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    Gasol easily.


    The Artest deal is a steal for the Rockets, but there are some question marks. First of all, he's Ron Artest. The dude could go off at any time. And secondly, he's only under contract for one more year.
     
  5. sook

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    lol gasol...obviously.

    The kings may have a future tmac player in green and they got an expiring. Artest comes with risks and he sent the lakers to the finals.

    I can't wait to get season tix, how early can you get playoff tix btw?
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't think you heard to many memphis fans crying about the dynasty break up
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    Gasol easily. They may be roughly on par talent-wise. But, Gasol is a stable, reliable worker whereas Artest is guaranteed to eventually explode. For some reason, people don't want to factor in players' inherent risks (of injury, of bad behavior, or anything) when sizing up the return they bring. Risk is inherent to value. Artest's value is certainly diminished by his risk.
     
  8. hooroo

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    Until Artest plays...TBD
     
  9. longhornchampno

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    Future tmac in Green?!?!? ROFL.

    BTW, you should change your signature. It's getting old. Maybe I should also put your "The kings may have a future tmac player in green" in my signature too. What do you think?
     
  10. plutoblue11

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    Obviously, the Gasol trade.


    Green has the potential to be all-star (and 20+ ppg scorer in this league, very skilled rookie) and the Kings get another 1st round pick next year. So it was a pretty fair deal with B-Jax being included.


    Gasol got traded for scrap....and bits of vermin. What kind of trade is tjat?
     
  11. DreamYaoTmac5

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    Gasol Trade and it's not close.
     
  12. StaticC4

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    Is this really that hard of a question? Obviously Gasol is the bigger give away the Grizzlies were building around him since he arrived and Ron was in Chicago and got traded to Indiana then Sactown, it means he wasn't a Franchise player that Gasol was.
     
  13. rterry

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    I agree that the Gasol trade was a bigger give away, but Memphis go more than vermin for him. Kwame was a huge expiring contract and I think Crittendon will become a starting point guard in the league (hopefully for the Rockets.)
     
  14. clos4life

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    Gasol for sure. That move helped them make the NBA finals and if Bynum comes back healthy Gasol will be truly dangerous because Bynum can do all the things Gasol doesn't do well. (ie: Rebounding/physical play)
     
  15. sook

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    look don't get angry at me b.c you said something dumb. You have no right to attack green like that, he can be as good as he wants to be. Your just like those guys at syricuse ( however you spell it) attacking him over everything. Green needs to develop a couple of moves and better shot selection and he will be great.
     
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    Attack? Saying that Green will not become as good as Tmac is an attack? Do you even know what you are talking about? Check out the meaning of 'attack' please. Dictionary.com is your friend.

    I could laugh at the idea that "The kings may have a future tmac player in green" at the moment I knew he was no longer a Rocket. I wouldn't say it if he was still one of us though. I don't care how good Green will become now because he is no longer a Rocket and will not help us win a game. But still the idea that "The kings may have a future tmac player in green" sound as much a hyperbole any statement can get.

    Let me ask you again. Do you want me to use "The kings may have a future tmac player in green" as my signature?
     
  17. sook

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    You haven't seen him play a single nba game. Yes he can, and i will stick to it. Most likely? No but i don't understand what your problem about it is. Green will go as far as he wants. I've seen his college games so that is why i seem to care more about than you even though he isnt a rocket anymore. You certainly have a problem with dreaming big, there is a reason the kings took the offer they see much potential in him.
     
  18. sook

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    btw go ahead and put it in there, w.e helps you sleep at night or gets you over whats in my sig...
     
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    Must wait a year before answering this question
     

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