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Biden: no coal plants in America

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Sep 23, 2008.

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  1. basso

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    <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/7rXyTRT-NZg&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/7rXyTRT-NZg&color1=0xb1b1b1&color2=0xcfcfcf&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

    this is going to help with the bitter gun clinging demo...
     
  2. SamFisher

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    Wow a coherent answer about energy, unlike McCain's energy expert Sarah Palin ("THE MOLECULES WERE DEFRAGGED, SO WE GOT TO KEEP PUMPING 'EM!")
     
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    is this equally coherent, again, Biden speaking:

    "When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"​


    i'll give you a sec to spot the numerous problems with that statement.
     
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    Biden is truly a clueless clown.

    Coal is the ticket to America's energy independence, and there are ways to clean up power plant emissions that are being developed. Saying 'no coal plants in America' is just ignorant and uninformed.
     
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    Coal producing states in the East:
    West Virginia, Virginia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Alabama, Tennessee, Indiana, Ohio, Illinois

    McCain, McCain, McCain, McCain(? thanks Joe?), McCain, McCain, McCain, McCain, Snobama


    HO HO HO
     
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    I hate youtube videos. It's even worse because they won't play at work. So, I have no idea what he said. But, if he's saying we want no coal energy in the US, that's not smart. And, it would contradict what Obama said in his acceptance speech about investing in clean coal technology.
     
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    that's what he said. no coal plants in the US, build them in china, but make them clean.
     
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    Hold - on, I'm looking for a comparable interview with Palin - drawing a blank.

    oh yeah, she's not allowed to talk to sharks like Katie Couric for fear of her getting ripped to shreds for her general lack of knowledge (other than defragged oil molecules and construction bonds).
     
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    cant watch either, but i'd hope he wouldn't just contradict his own platform like that... any other context?
     
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    pretty sure if Palin had said something similar you would be making jokes about the germans bombing pearl harbor.
     
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    For Palin to say something similar would require a depth of knowledge (such as the difference between FDR and TR) that is generally beyond the level of a two-time junior college dropout.

    But you're right - there is a double standard.

    And rightfully so - Palin has done nothing at all to demonstrate her skill either professionally, academically, or politically - unlike the other three candidates. Of course she should be viewed with suspicion.
     
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    How the heck has Obama demonstrated his skill professionally, academically or politically?

    - He was a lecturer (did he have tenure, Sam) at U of Chicago -- so what.
    - He won't release his grades from undergrad (probably signalling that he benefitted from affirmative action getting into law school)
    - He obviously hasn't passed any meaningful legislation in the Senate and has authored nothing of consequence that was bi-partisan in nature and wasn't unanimously approved.


    ...and Biden having a depth of knowledge on the coal industry? The youtube clip proves that thesis wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt.


    Sam, it must pain you to have to defend a candidate with a tissue paper thin resume and a blowhard running mate who thinks he's the smartest human alive.

    The good news? It's ALMOST OCTOBER -- HO HO HO
     
  13. pgabriel

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    i've seen you and texxx post this as if it is a negative and after defending the current idiot and chief getting in to both his grad and undergrad school on legacy.

    why do you defend legacy and have a problem with afirmative action? and don't argue that bush got in on his own merits, we know that's not true
     
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    Obama wants to avoid the affirmative action discussion as it relates to his acceptance into Harvard. Anything that gets race relations boiling works against him in must win states such as Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. Especially Michigan -- the home of Obama's friend with a 2% approval rating -- Kwame Kilpatrick.
     
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    so you admit that people vote on race issues and that some people may not vote for him because of race;

    affrimative actowned
     
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    Jorge doesn't know this, and I don't blame him, because you'd have to go to law school to find out - but anyway, Obama was on Harvard Law Review, in fact the President thereof.

    To make Law Review, there's no selection or selection committee - it's simply the people who make the highest grades after the first year of law school (grading is blind of course). It's purely grade based. Nothing else about it.

    In addition to grades, there's another way to get on which is to "write on" - they take a couple of students who don't make the grade but win the writing contest (again, graded blindly) to get on.

    So we know that as an HLR member, he either made the top grades in his class or won the writing contest - both of which are very difficult to do.

    Accordingly it's pretty much impossible to make Harvard Law Review simply because you're black - so Jorge's little racist balloon just got

    DEFLATED

    PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTT
     
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    harvard law revowned^^^^
     
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    Sam, the issue is how he got accepted to Harvard. Because he won't release his academic results from undergrad, we are left to surmise that he benefitted from affirmative action in his acceptance. If he did not, then why not release the grades? I guess he's got something to hide.

    I do salute him for making good grades at Harvard (whether the grading was blind or not is open to discussion -- plenty of law school grades are not blind)... I guess the cocaine helped him stay up late enough to study?

    HO HO HO
     
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    so you admit that even if he got in on aa, a dubious claim, that it worked in getting in a well qualified student, and in the case of legacy and bush, legacy didn't work

    legacowned
     
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    Precisely - if Jorge's premise was correct than it looks even worse for his anti-AA argument than if it was a lie (which it probably is).

    He put himself between the Scylla and Charybdis of ownage.
     

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