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Biden is no joke; will vote for him again

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Jul 2, 2021.

  1. Commodore

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    Biden’s 2024 chances are much stronger than people realize

    Two things have happened to Trump since 2020 that are going to make it very hard for him to win in 2024.

    Dec. 27, 2023, 6:00 AM EST
    By Simon Rosenberg, Democratic strategist

    As we head into 2024, the conventional wisdom is that Democrats are on the back foot for next year’s elections. But there are three reasons I am optimistic that 2024 is going to be a good year for Democrats:

    First, President Joe Biden has kept his central promise in the 2020 election: that he would lead the nation to the other side of Covid, successfully. The pandemic has receded. Our economic recovery has been better than any other G7 nation. GDP grew at an annual rate of 4.9% last quarter, and more than 3% for the Biden presidency. We have the best job market since the 1960s and the lowest uninsured rate in U.S. history. The Dow Jones broke 37,000 this month for the first time. Wage growth, new business formation and prime-age labor participation rates are all at historically elevated levels. Prices fell — yes, fell — last month. Rents are softening, and gas prices and crime rates are falling. Domestic oil and renewable production are at record levels. The annual deficit, which exploded under Trump, is trillions less today.

    Consumer sentiment has risen sharply in recent weeks, and measures of life, job and income satisfaction are remarkably high. There is no doubt that recent years have been hard — Covid, an insurrection at the Capitol, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, repeated OPEC price hikes, global and domestic inflation — but it is increasingly clear that America is getting to the other side of this challenging period, and are in a far better place than when President Biden took office.

    Second, the strength of the president’s record is only matched by the strength of his party. I don’t think it is widely understood how strong the Democratic Party is right now. The party has won more votes in seven of the past eight presidential elections, something no party has done in modern American history. Over the last four presidential elections, Democrats have averaged 51% of the popular vote, their best showing over four national elections since the 1930s.

    In both 2022 and 2023, Democrats prevented the historical down ballot struggle of the party in power and had two remarkably successful elections. In the 2022 midterms, Democrats’ statewide margins were greater than the 2020 presidential margins in Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, Minnesota, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania — all recent battleground states. That showing led the party to pick up a Senate seat, four state legislative chambers and two governorships, and helped keep the House of Representatives close, making it far more likely Republicans lose it in 2024.

    This year, Democrats flipped a Supreme Court seat in Wisconsin; defeated a six-week abortion ban in Ohio; kept the Virginia state house, debunking the idea that Republicans could hide behind a 15-week abortion ban; and took state legislative seats, municipalities and school board seats across the country. Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear, a Democrat, grew his margin of victory from 2019, and Republicans lost mayoral elections in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Jacksonville, Florida, two of the largest GOP-controlled cities in the country. And in over three dozen state legislative special elections around the country, Democrats outperformed 2020 – an election we won by 4.5 percentage points — by an average of 5 percentage points.

    While in 2022, Republicans could point to gains in New York and California to offset their losses in the battleground states, there were no places in 2023 where they outperformed expectations. A blue wave washed across the U.S. in 2023, and this ongoing strong performance of the Democratic Party in election after election, in all parts of the country, should fill Biden’s supporters with confidence.

    Finally, while Democrats keep winning, conventional wisdom continues to overly discount Trump’s historic baggage and MAGA’s repeated electoral failures. Despite these repeated failures, Republicans are on the cusp of nominating Trump again, who this time is an even more degraded and dangerous version of MAGA than he was in 2020.

    Two things have happened to Trump since 2020 that are going to make it very hard for him to win in 2024 — the stripping away of women’s reproductive rights, and his attempt to overturn the 2020 election and end American democracy for all time. Additionally, this year courts have already determined that he sexually abused journalist E. Jean Carroll in a department store; oversaw a yearslong financial fraud; and led a party-wide effort, involving hundreds of Republican leaders and thousands of willing allies, to overturn the last election, culminating in a violent attack on Congress.

    Democrats will be able to argue that no one is more responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade than Trump; that his mishandling of classified documents is to blame for the most serious security breach in American history; that in concert with Russian President Vladimir Putin he will end the global liberal order that has brought America and the world unprecedented prosperity and peace; that he supports more dead kids in schools, a faster warming planet, lost health insurance for tens of millions of Americans and the end of American democracy for all time. Trump represents an unprecedented threat to the country, is even more extreme than 2020, and has, in political parlance, the highest “negatives” of any candidate perhaps in our history. It is going to be very hard for him to win next year.

    For all these reasons, as we head into 2024, I am optimistic that Joe Biden and the Democrats will once again beat Donald Trump, and hopefully, this time, send MAGA into the dustbin of history where it belongs.​
     
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    LOL... I don't know who is least reliable... judicial watch, or paul sperry. But you go girl!
     
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    Violent crime is lower today in the usa than at any point during trumps tenure @Astrodome

    Will the MAGATs @Trader_Jorge stop watching OANN conspiracies?
     
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    All them J6ers are locked away. Should be pretty calm until they start getting released in a few years.
     
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    I agree with a lot of this which is why Ive been saying the polling is worrisome but not definitive. It’s one thing to register disapproval of the current president a year out and another to actually have to vote on a choice.
     
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    Another thing I wonder about is if polling models are being skewed as the last few years we’ve seen polling very negative towards Democrats when results like in 2022 didn’t turn out that way. I had heard that pollsters were concerned after 2016 that their polling might be too skewed towards Democrats so
    Adjusted their methods. Is it possible they’ve skewed it too far the other way?
     
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    Also don't underestimate the power of rate cuts. Mortgage loans, auto loans, business credit will be much much easier next year as the fed slashes rates.....The economy will be getting better while trumps legal issues will be getting worst as the trial nears....

    Biden is soon going sign a anti immigration bill which is good and will help secure the border.
     
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    Rates need to be held one more year. Inflation is not under control. It's just suppressed. The question is how much credit demand is pent up. It does appear there is significan demand pent up
     
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    Quit trolling. The feds core PPI index is at 2% over the past 6 months. There's no reason they should keep rates high which will hurt taxpayers as the interest we pay on our debt will baloon. Bank balance sheets will improve much more after the fed starts slahes which will allow credit to be accessed more by consumers.

    The only thing biden needs to do is end the dumb wars that are occurring and become a republican on the border by closing the border.

    The immigration bill biden will be signing next month will be the most anti immigration bill ever signed by a potus and will remove assylm screenings for migrants. The current immigration system is being abused.
     
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    You're not even trying to understand what I said. No rate cuts this year brings stability to the economy. It stifles demand and there appears to be quite a bit of pent up demand. What you want is a roaring economy with low gas prices. If demand is higher than expected (which I am starting to believe) and rates start coming down too quickly, we will be stuck back in a inflationary environment. Ideally we want demand to be feathered out for that 'soft landing'. Some have suggested demand is much lower. I dont believe that. We dont need the government giving out handouts to spur the economy.
     
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    What items do you see which would be effected most by pent up demand? The biggest issue that people are facing are housing costs which developers claim the high rates is hurting supply more down curbing demand? On a recent earnings call one of the biggest developers have said they have hundreds of projects waiting to break ground as soon as the credit situation becomes more favorable

    Automobiles had a inflationary cycle cuz we had a massive chip shortage in 2021 which caused price hikes. The big auto have said they don't see further price increases upcoming anytime soon.

    What services are going to be effected the most by rate cuts?
     
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    @Salvy MAGA "crime is out of hand and getting worse"

    Frauds
     
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    Yeah yeah yeah ... but ... school shootings are up.

    So there is that.


     
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    2019 Homicides:
    New York City - 319
    Los Angeles - 253
    Chicago - 510
    Houston - 280
    Phoenix - 139
    Philadelphia - 356
    San Antonio - 105
    Dallas - 205
    Austin - 33

    You are looking at a regression toward the mean from the out-of-control homicide bonanzas of the last three years.
     
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    You can't just forget that 2020 happened Jesus christ. Over a million folks dead and folks were locked up on their houses for weeks which drove them nuts.

    I look at recent trends not some ancient time before a global pandemic ravaged the world
     
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    Historic rise and now historic drop (percentage-wise) in homicide rates. Glad we are getting back to normal.

    [Now, if you blamed Biden for the historic rise, then you should also give him credit for the historic drop; I think the once-in-a-lifetime pandemic caused all kinds of distortion, including historic jumps/declines in crime rates.]

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    2020 isn't 2022 or 2023.
     

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