1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bhutto Killed in suicide attack in Pakistan

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Dec 27, 2007.

Tags:
  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,790
    Likes Received:
    3,708
    on MSNBC wil get link later

    edit: link


    RAWALPINDI, Pakistan -- Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto was assassinated today in a suicide bombing that also killed at least 20 others at a campaign rally, a party aide and a military official said.
     
  2. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
  3. Mr. Brightside

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2005
    Messages:
    18,965
    Likes Received:
    2,148
    They said she was shot first? :confused:
     
  4. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    from CNN...

    It's early, so who really knows.
     
  5. arno_ed

    arno_ed Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    8,026
    Likes Received:
    2,136
    They said on the dutch news that the killer shot her (i believe 2 shots). And after that blew himself up.
     
  6. Uprising

    Uprising Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2000
    Messages:
    43,076
    Likes Received:
    6,603
    She was shot in the neck.

    Sad to see another human being die. but it's not like she was the future of Pakistan. She was part of the corruption. She would have never have brought a democratic society to Pakistan....bunch of media mumbo jumbo.

    Can't have democracy in a country that has ZERO sepperation of religion and state.
     
  7. Uprising

    Uprising Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2000
    Messages:
    43,076
    Likes Received:
    6,603
    On a side note, there is video of the attack. Not coverage...but of the attack/explosion itself. :(
     
  8. Oski2005

    Oski2005 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2001
    Messages:
    18,100
    Likes Received:
    447
    I suppose you know the in and outs of the corruption charges so I'll have to take your word for it. I just know her last corruption charge was overturned.
     
  9. AB

    AB Member

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2000
    Messages:
    1,814
    Likes Received:
    1,762
    Yup.. Unbelievable..

    How could she be shot?? with all that security around her and an attack not more than 2 months before. You would think security will be more than alert
     
  10. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    While all that may be true and I am by no means an expert in Pakistan’s political workings, from what I understand Bhutto was brought back to Pakistan, with US consent, to buffer Musharraf's political future. And try to appeal to the moderates in the country. Now that she is dead, Musharraf' will probably cancel the upcoming elections again and the US really will have no say in how this will all turn out.

    Spencer Ackerman is much more eloquent than I on the subject…

    The most likely culprit is the Pakistani Taliban and al-Qaeda. But it's not exactly an event met with tears by the Pakistani military, which thoroughly controls the government and the economy. After the summer's turbulence with Islamic radicals and Pervez Musharraf's subsequent declaration of martial law -- designed to crack down not on Islamist militants but the remnants of Pakistan's democratic opposition -- the U.S. prevailed upon Musharraf to ally with Bhutto in the interest of broadening Musharraf's base of support. But the event that would consummate the alliance, next month's election, represented a threat to continued military rule. "The military didn't really want civilian politicians in power," says New York University's Barnett Rubin, a South Asia expert. "They wanted to use them to legitimate indirect [military] rule, and they were going to do it by rigging the election."

    U.S. strategy didn't exactly find that so offensive. "The idea was to consolidate the alliance of the so-called moderate forces in the Pakistani military through this election that the military was going to rig but we were going to certify anyway," Rubin observes. That is, as long as Bhutto was in the picture -- since the U.S. had reduced the democratic opposition to the figure of Benazir Bhutto, although her corruption as PM was manifest. Without Bhutto, it is unclear what the U.S. will do.

    Bhutto's assassination presents an opportunity for Musharraf. "It's very possible Musharraf will declare [another] state of emergency and postpone the elections," Rubin continues. "That will confirm in many people's minds the idea that the military is behind" the assassination. For it's part, the U.S. will likely "be scrambling to say the election either needs to be held as planned or postponed rather than canceled, but Musharraf is in a position to preempt that."

    As a result, Rubin says, U.S. strategy is "in tatters."

    http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004984.php
     
  11. Uprising

    Uprising Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2000
    Messages:
    43,076
    Likes Received:
    6,603
    Yep, it definetly not a good thing. Pakistan is going to be very shaky in the coming days. With her there, and Musharraf stepping down from military leader (not wearing his uniform anymore etc.) Pakistan has been quieter....

    Not sure what they are going to do now (the opposition).

    This is bad though. Marshall law could be coming up. :(
     
  12. Surfguy

    Surfguy Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 1999
    Messages:
    24,573
    Likes Received:
    12,852
    Pakistan sucks.

    I wish I could say I'm totally shocked but nothing shocks me coming out of that country any more. Oh...but the nukes are safe. Sure.
     
  13. omair

    omair Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2002
    Messages:
    349
    Likes Received:
    2
    man i just found out... i flew from houston to dubai and i am in dubai right now and my flight for karachi is in 4 hours. I hope that the flight wont get cancelled and hopefully it will be safe at the airport
     
  14. s land balla

    s land balla Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2001
    Messages:
    6,610
    Likes Received:
    365
    stay safe omair, my little brother and both of my parents landed in islamabad late last night (houston time) and had a connecting flight to lahore. hopefully they made it there safe...i'll have to call my grandfather's house in lahore later today to see how it's going
     
  15. napalm

    napalm Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2005
    Messages:
    2,348
    Likes Received:
    1
    Spoke to some of my family in Lahore and it seems like things are tense, but not much is happening as of yet. Don't know the situation in Karachi, but I hope you have a safe trip.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,281
    Terrible news. RIP.
     
  17. krnxsnoopy

    krnxsnoopy Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2005
    Messages:
    10,870
    Likes Received:
    1,549
    I don't understand. They couldn't come up with better security than that? I guess they finally got her.. :(
     
  18. A_3PO

    A_3PO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    Messages:
    46,752
    Likes Received:
    12,289
    Don't go.
     
  19. KingCheetah

    KingCheetah Atomic Playboy
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2002
    Messages:
    59,079
    Likes Received:
    52,748
    Dark days in Pakistan -- no doubt.
     
  20. JeopardE

    JeopardE Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    7,418
    Likes Received:
    246
    They finally got her.

    Dark days in Pakistan, indeed.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now