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  1. iper

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    Welcome to Rockets Fans off Season ... :mad:

    Since a lot of people are starting thread like we are going to sign Kidd, Swift ..whatever... I think it might be interesting to start a contest:

    Post your prediction of who Rockets will sign during the off season here.

    Before next Season start, I will summarize the results and "annouce" :)-)) the winner. And the prize is ... .. still thinking .. :)

    Here are the rules:

    You must post one's name before we hear any reliable news that he will be signed.

    For each correct prediction, you will earn 100/(total number of posters that also predict he will be signed) .

    For each wrong prediction, you will be deducted 0.1 point (this rule might change ;) ... I am thinking hard on it...

    Ok, let's start the game!
     
  2. macfan

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    Jay Williams
     
  3. iper

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    To clarify.
    Prediction of "resigning rox free agents" is also count.
     
  4. lost_elephant

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    Sign and Trade - Tyson Chandler
     
  5. iper

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    Attention: Changing Rules:
    To make the game fair to everybody, I think this format is better: instead of writing one or several names, write down the new season Roster (15 players).

    My prediction example of New Roster: :)
    Jon Barry
    Ryan Bowen
    Juwan Howard
    Tracy McGrady
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Moochie Norris
    Scott Padgett
    Bob Sura
    larence Weatherspoon
    David Wesley
    Yao Ming
    Jordan (*)
    Stern (*)
    Dream(*)
    SWift(*)

    * indicates new player.

    ------------------------------------
    2004 Season Roster:
    Vin Baker
    Jon Barry
    Ryan Bowen
    Torraye Braggs**
    Juwan Howard*
    Mike James
    Tracy McGrady
    Dikembe Mutombo
    Moochie Norris
    Scott Padgett
    Bob Sura
    Charlie Ward*
    larence Weatherspoon
    David Wesley
    Yao Ming
    ------------
     
  6. DavidS

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    Too many to choose from! :D

    Sura
    James
    Barry
    T-mac
    Howard
    Yao
    Padge
    Bowen
    Deke
    Jeff McInnis *
    Stromile Swift *
    Vassilis Spanoulis *
    Raja Bell *
    Chris Crawford *
    Bobby Simmons *


    Don't ask me how we're going to afford them. I duno...

    Top 40 Free Agent Point Guards
    1. Marko Jaric (Restricted)
    2. Sarunas Jasikevicius
    3. Antonio Daniels (Player Option)
    4. Gary Payton
    5. Brevin Knight
    6. Earl Watson
    7. Damon Stoudamire
    8. Jeff McInnis
    9. Chris Duhon (Restricted)
    10. Damon Jones (Player Option)
    11. Nick Van Exel (Team Option)
    12. Dan Dickau (Option Declined)
    13. Tyronn Lue
    14. Darrell Armstrong
    15. Jacque Vaughn (Team Option)
    16. Howard Eisley
    17. Tony Delk (Player Option)
    18. Steve Blake
    19. Keith McLeod (Restricted)
    20. Milt Palacio
    21. Travis Best
    22. Frank Williams (Option Declined)
    23. Erick Strickland
    24. Jannero Pargo (Restricted)
    25. Rick Brunson
    26. Kenny Anderson
    27. Tierre Brown
    28. Keyon Dooling (Player Option)
    29. Anthony Carter
    30. Jamison Brewer
    31. Eddie Gill
    32. Andre Barrett
    33. Luis Flores (Restricted)
    34. Lionel Chalmers (Restricted)
    35. Junior Harrington
    36. Mateen Cleaves
    37. Omar Cook
    38. Quinton Ross
    39. Mike Wilks
    40. Anthony Goldwire

    Top 40 Free Agent Shooting Guards
    1. Ray Allen
    2. Michael Redd (Player Option)
    3. Larry Hughes
    4. Joe Johnson (Restricted)
    5. Cuttino Mobley (Player Option)
    6. Eddie Jones (Player Option)
    7. Bobby Jackson (Team Option)
    8. Kerry Kittles
    9. Latrell Sprewell
    10. Ronald Murray (Restricted)
    11. Willie Green (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    12. Jon Barry
    13. Casey Jacobsen
    14. DerMarr Johnson
    15. Juan Dixon (Option Declined)
    16. Raja Bell
    17. Keith Bogans (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    18. Maurice Evans (Restricted)
    19. Kareem Rush (Option Declined)
    20. Shandon Anderson
    21. Dajuan Wagner (Option Declined)
    22. Anthony Peeler
    23. Greg Buckner (Player Option)
    24. Matt Carroll
    25. Damien Wilkins (Restricted)
    26. Richie Frahm (Restricted)
    27. Ron Mercer (Player Option)
    28. Eddie House
    29. Laron Profit
    30. Erik Daniels (Restricted)
    31. Tamar Slay (Team Option)
    32. Romain Sato
    33. Steve Smith
    34. Wesley Person
    35. Horace Jenkins (Restricted)
    36. Qyntel Woods
    37. Adrian Griffin
    38. Kedrick Brown
    39. Dion Glover
    40. Cory Alexander


    Top 40 Free Agent Small Forwards
    1. Grant Hill (Player Option)
    2. Bobby Simmons
    3. Vladimir Radmanovic (Restricted)
    4. Kyle Korver (Restricted/Bird Rights)
    5. Bonzi Wells (Team Option)
    6. James Jones (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    7. Luke Walton (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    8. Eddie Griffin (Restricted)
    9. Devin Brown (Restricted)
    10. Gerald Wallace (Restricted)
    11. Glenn Robinson
    12. Bostjan Nachbar (Option Declined)
    13. Walter McCarty (Player Option)
    14. Jason Kapono (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    15. Brian Scalabrine
    16. Scott Padgett (Player Option)
    17. Lee Nailon
    18. Chris Crawford
    19. Matt Barnes (Restricted)
    20. Rodney Rogers
    21. Josh Davis (Restricted)
    22. Ronald Dupree (Player Option)
    23. Matt Bonner (Restricted)
    24. Nikoloz Tskitishvili (Option Declined)
    25. Calbert Cheaney (Player Option)
    26. Devean George (Player Option)
    27. Toni Kukoc
    28. Ryan Humphrey (Option Declined)
    29. Darvin Ham
    30. Rodney Buford
    31. Theron Smith
    32. Ryan Bowen
    33. Pape Sow (Team Option)
    34. Jamal Mashburn (Player Option)
    35. Donta Smith (Restricted)
    36. Stacey Augmon (Player Option)
    37. Damone Brown
    38. Chris Jeffries
    39. Bryon Russell
    40. Jerome Beasley

    Top 40 Free Agent Power Forwards
    1. Shareef Abdur-Rahim
    2. Antoine Walker
    3. Tyson Chandler (Restricted)
    4. Stromile Swift
    5. Keith Van Horn (Player Option)
    6. Udonis Haslem (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    7. Donyell Marshall
    8. Reggie Evans (Restricted)
    9. Danny Fortson (Player Option)
    10. Kwame Brown (Restricted)
    11. Darius Songaila (Player Option)
    12. Brian Grant (Player Option)
    13. Chris Andersen (Player Option)
    14. Othella Harrington
    15. Austin Croshere (Player Option)
    16. Tony Battie (Player Option)
    17. Mark Madsen
    18. Robert Horry (Player Option)
    19. Alan Henderson
    20. Christian Laettner
    21. Malik Allen
    22. Michael Ruffin
    23. Sean Marks
    24. Aaron Williams (Player Option)
    25. Tony Massenburg
    26. Bo Outlaw
    27. Jahidi White
    28. Lawrence Funderbukre
    29. Jackson Vroman (Team Option)
    30. Marcus Fizer
    31. Brandon Hunter (Restricted)
    32. Jabari Smith
    33. Samaki Walker
    34. Tom Gugliotta
    35. Zendon Hamilton
    36. James Thomas
    37. Jackie Butler (Team Option)
    38. Jerome Moiso
    39. Ben Handlogten
    40. John Thomas

    Top 40 Free Agent Centers
    1. Shaquille O'Neal (Player Option)
    2. Eddy Curry (Restricted)
    3. Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    4. Samuel Dalembert (Restricted)
    5. Dan Gadzuric (Restricted)
    6. Jerome James
    7. Zaza Pachulia (Restricted/Early Bird Rights)
    8. Clifford Robinson (Team Option)
    9. Steven Hunter (Player Option)
    10. Peja Drobnjak (Team Option)
    11. Alonzo Mourning
    12. Vitaly Potapenko
    13. Dikembe Mutombo
    14. Andrew DeClercq
    15. DeSagana Diop (Restricted)
    16. Zeljko Rebraca
    17. Francisco Elson (Team Option)
    18. Ervin Johnson
    19. Scott Williams
    20. Greg Ostertag (Player Option)
    21. Mikki Moore
    22. Dale Davis
    23. Jake Voskuhl (Player Option)
    24. Jared Reiner (Restricted)
    25. Elden Campbell
    26. Obinna Ekezie
    27. John Edwards (Restricted)
    28. Paul Shirley (Team Option)
    29. Daniel Santiago
    30. Michael Bradley (Player Option)
    31. Kevin Willis
    32. Vin Baker (Player Option)
    33. Vladimir Stepania
    34. Wang Zhizhi
    35. Bruno Sundov
    36. Ha Seung-Jin (Restricted)
    37. Cezary Trybanski
    38. Michael Stewart
    39. Jelani McCoy
    40. Jamal Sampson
     
    #6 DavidS, May 10, 2005
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  7. m_cable

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    Might as well get my Pet Paul Pierce Prediction Placed Prophetically on Paper (err... something like that).

    Sura
    James
    Paul Pierce *
    Barry
    T-mac
    Howard
    Yao
    Lafrentz *
    Padge
    Bowen
    Deke
    Hakim Warrick *

    Barrett - Why not.
    Braggs - Eh (Shrugs)
    Random Undrafted Rookie - John "Scrubhouse" Mcclaine
     
  8. Lil' Worm

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    Dream = Joe Johnson, Elton Brand (trade)

    Possible Reality = Antonio Daniels, Bobby Simmons
     
  9. cdastros

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    Rockets - 2005 - 2006 roster

    pg - Jeff Mcinnis - rockets sign in free agency
    sg - David Wesley
    sf - Tracey Mcgrady
    pf - Theo Ratliff - Rockets get in a trade
    C - Yao Ming

    Bench
    C - Dikembe Mutombo
    sg - Jon Barry
    sg - Bob Sura
    pf - Juwan Howard
    pg - Mike James
    sf - Joey Graham - Rockets First round draft pick
    sf - Ryan Bowen

    IR
    Chrlie Ward
    Vassilis SPANOULIS

    Rockets trade - Vin Baker, Clarence Watherspoon, Moochie Norris to Portland
    for Theo Ratliff
     
  10. The Real Shady

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    PG: Sura
    SG: Wesley
    SF: T-Mac
    PF: Donyell Marshall (FA - upgrade in rebounding, shooting, and defense over Juwon.)
    C: Yao

    Bench:
    Mike James
    Jon Barry
    Dikemebe Mutombo
    Juwon Howard

    Expiring contracts: (These guys will be traded at next season trade deadline.)
    Moochie
    Vin Baker
    Weatherspoon
    Ward

    Draft:
    Francisco Garcia (hard to predict a draft pick, but he fits the mold of what the rockets are putting around Yao and McGrady)
     
  11. VesceySux

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    PG: Bob Sura
    SG: Jon Barry
    SF: Tracy McGrady
    PF: Kurt Thomas
    C: Yao Ming

    Bench:
    PG: Mike James
    PG: Charlie Ward
    PG: Vassilis Spanoulis
    SG: Raja Bell
    SF: Ryan Bowen
    SF: Joey Graham (draft pick)
    PF: Juwan Howard
    PF: Clarence Weatherspoon
    PF: Vin Baker
    C: Dikembe Mutombo

    - K. Thomas acquired from NY Knicks for M. Norris, D. Wesley, and a future protected 1st round pick (which could turn into two 2nd round picks).
    - R. Bell acquired in free agency.
     
  12. rhester

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    No way too early...

    But some intriguing names-

    Earl Watson
    Jeff Mcginnis
    Dan Dickau
    Dermar Johnson
    Kareem Rush
    Bobby Simmons
    Stromile Swift
    Alan Henderson

    There are some possible bargains for value if JVG thought these guys had the work ethic and quickness to upgrade our bench

    Bobby Simmons and Stromile Swift could be starters here.
     
  13. The_Yoyo

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    Marko Jaric -PG
    Antonio Daniels -SG(Sign and Trade w/ Sonics)
    Tracy McGrady -SF
    Juwon Howard -PF
    Yao Ming - C

    Bench
    Francisco Garcia (Rookie)
    Mike James
    Jon Barry (Re-sign)
    Dikembe Mutombo (Re-sign)
    Mark Madsen
    Scott Padgett
    Ryan Bowen (Re-sign)
    Vin Baker*
    Moochie Norris*
    Wayne Simien - (Rookie) Draft Day Deal

    Transactions:
    Send Sura and Wesley to Seattle for Daniels in a S&T-Sura backups Ridnour and can play combo guard and Wesley gives them another perimeter threat + is expiring contract

    Sign Marko Jaric for MLE
    Big PG (6-7) that has a career 2 to 1 assist/to ratio. He is restricted but has said he wants to play the PG spot in LA. Clippers unlikely to fufill that wish with Livingston developing well. More than likely will not match a MLE offer. Also still young at 26. (Will be 27 in OCT)

    Re-sign Barry,Deke and Bowen for cheap. All have wished to come back to Houston or retire and at this stage in their careers probably would come back for the vet minimum.

    Trade Future 2nd round pick + Spoon (expiring contract) for the rights to Wayne Simien. This is dependent on where Wayne will fall. Most mock drafts I have seen has put him in the low first round early 2nd round. This would mean a top tier team would probably draft him, but not use him in their rotation. An expiring contract like Spoons may prove to be more useful to them. The 2nd round pick is there to balance anything out or sweeten the pot to get Simien since Spoon at this point is dead weight. The pick may not be necessary if Spoon is enough.

    Draft Francisco Garcia with the 24th pick.
    Athletic SF/SG out of Louisville. Can do everything well: penetrate, shoot the ball, pass, rebound. Defense needs work but with his long arms and speed he can become a real good perimeter defender under JVG. From a winning program in college and good coach(Pitino) so he knows what hard work is.

    Sign or Trade for Mark Madsen
    Probably will get flamed for this choice, but here goes. Madsen isnt going to nailing 15 foot jumpshots, but the guy is a banger down low and rebounds like his is possessed. Huge energy guy that can give you 4-8points and 8 boards in limited time off the bench. Can play the 4 or 5 spot. All out hustle guy and is a fan favorite wherever he plays because of his effort. Young player but has won two rings (lakers) and would have the most successful playoff resume among any of the current rockets.

    *Sign and trade for Madsen for either Baker or Norris (expiring $) to minnesota. T-Wolves trying to clear house and rebuild around KG will need all the cap space they can get.


    There is my plans for this offseason. Of course the PF spot is still the soft spot in the lineup but you cant get everything done in one offseason. If we can get Simien i think he can be our pf of the future. Or next season use the MLE to get a PF, right now the asking prices for chandler or swift (whom many here want) is too high.
    Rome wasnt built in a day folks, it may take 2 seasons to get the talent we want on this team, but if all the above pieces fall into place i think making the second round would be easy next year.
     
  14. SamFisher

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    :D

    Are you kidding me? It's funny, people on the BBS somehow thought he was something before this season, when he had put up two awful seasons. Now he puts up an average season in limited minutes (due to improved distance shooting) and he has shot to the top of everyone's list. I mean, I bet since he's got a slavic name he's a smart versatile heady player who shoots lights out -- we need guys like him. :rolleyes:

    My god, I bet within a few months the legend of Marko Jaric is going to grow and grow to even more outrageous proportions- never mind the fact that he is among the very worst starting point guards in the West, and is among the worst defenders in the entire league (and ostensibly auditioning for a starting slot on one of the best defensive team around)
     
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    I will say now. Grant Hill will execute its player option and come here for the MLE.
     
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    Walter McCarty
    Ron Mercer
    Danny Fortson
     
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    Here is my realistic prediction:
    PG: Sura/James/Spanoulis (bring him over from Europe)
    SG: Wesley/Barry
    SF: T-Mac/Francisco Garcia (draft)
    PF: SAR (for the MLE)/Howard/Padgett
    C: Yao/Deke

    IL: Vin Baker/Moochie Norris/Clarence Weatherspoon

    Charlie Ward's last year of his contract will be bought out (or traded for a 2nd round pick) and I just dont see a spot on this team for Ryan Bowen.

    My Dream off-season: Draft Simean, do a sign and trade for SAR, and use the MLE for Simmons.
     
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    Yao/Mutombo
    Milicic/HowardPadgett
    Warrick/Buford/Bowen
    McGrady/Barry/Dupree
    James/Sura/Spanoulis/Norris
     

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