No one has even said this so let me put out this sign and trade for Ron Artest. If Ron does not want a paycut and insists on a 10m+ extension for multiple years, then it would be time to do a sign and trade, the best realistic possibility is Ray Allen. I think Boston has soured on Ray Allen, because of his age and his inconsistencies in the playoffs, he doesn't really fit their team because he really needs a lot of plays run for him, and he only gets the leftovers after KG and PP, he doesn't really mesh well as the third option, and this playoffs show that neither he nor pierce can get going together in the same game because their games are not complementary without a post presence. One the other hand if he was in houston, he would be the 2nd option behind Yao and he would get a lot of plays run for him, he is a very efficient offensive player and does not take a lot of shot clock on possessions. he would be a perfect fit for Yao Ming. Artest would be a much better fit on the celtics because he basically would take defensive duties from Paul Pierce, Pierce basically wears down over a season because he has to guard the best player on the opposing team every night, having artest would keep him fresh and also Boston is a defensive minded team so artest would fit in quite well. Also Ray Allen would expire after the 2010 season so it's a low risk move in case it doesn't work out. So it would be something like Artest(resigned 10m+) + Brent Barry+ Brian Cook for Ray Allen.
I'm glad you brought it up,because I asked this very question in another thread. Ray Allen doesn't have the defense that Ron has,but he is an efficient shooter who isn't completely one dimensional either. The Celtics are a team with championship aspirations,especially after losing this year. However,I'm not sure if they would want Ron. What you have said does make some sense though,the only drawback for the C's would be Ron's low shooting percentage.
boston is in a championship run, they do not take mcgrady who no one knows if he is even playing one more game. They would take artest for sure since that would prolong their championship window. Realistically, ray doesn't need to play that good defence, you put him on the weaker of the wing players and let battier take the better one. With him, the offense becomes so much more efficient than if you had artest. Also, everyone forgets that Yao Ming sets the best screens in basketball, nobody can get around a Yao screen, you can just run Ray Allen around a Yao screen during crunch time and you get a good shot every time.
Ron's shooting % wouldn't matter on the celtics because he would be 4th option behind KG, PP, and rondo, what's more he wouldn't be able to intimidate Rondo into giving him the ball like he does with Brooks and Lowry.
good points there. do you live in boston (i used to live there for about 2 years)? i mean how much do you know about the celts? their title run is over now for this season, maybe they also want cap relief? after all they've got a title in their first try already... but either way, mcgrady or a s&t artest, i think getting ray allen is a good idea.
He'll make $18.7 million next year. So would Ron be playing out of position still in Boston or would Pierce move over to SG? Either way, I don't see Boston going for it.
Damn Ray Allen is making 18 million dollars next year. Pretty good idea by the OP though. Would be nice if it happened.
The low risk of having Ray makes me interested. Having Battier on the stronger wing and Ray on the weaker one on defense makes sense as well. Wow,didn't realize the huge salary discrepancy! Won't work.
It'd matter if he remains a black hole. Don't go around thinking Ron is going to change the way he plays just because there are different players on the court.
Not through Free Agency but through Sign and trade, he could get it done, I mean first option is to sign him for MLE money, if he wants significantly more than you have to sign and trade him, you can't let it turn into a Varejao situation where it drags on into training camp. what's more he would be significantly better defender in boston than in Houston because KG is a much more mobile help defender than Yao so Artest can afford to gamble and bully a lot more. Remember his DPOY season came when he played with a young Jermaine Oneal who was basically KG lite.
yeah, i vaguely remembered he's making high teen's. so only scenario is they'd take some cap relief and hope for another f/a run in 2010 - in other words, we giving them mcgrady?
he's a black hole because brooks and lowry defer to him because of his seniority and because he's the loudest voice in the locker room. Rondo is now a legit NBA star and is not going to pass him the ball when he gets into black hole mode, and KG is an enforcer in the locker room.
Ray's epic struggles during the playoffs really makes you wonder if he's got much left in the tank. The only reason we think Ron is so offensively limited is that he was forced to be first or second option without Tmac (and later without Yao). If he can comfortably play third fiddle to two better offensive players, he's a better overall asset for our team than an aging Ray Allen, who is turning 34 this summer.
