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Bench vs Starters Tonight

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TheGreat, Feb 6, 2010.

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  1. TheGreat

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    I can't even blame this one on Ariza. Basically, our whole starting unit sucked except AB. And he couldn't run the team like Lowry unfortunately.
     
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    brooks is not a point guard, you could clearly see it tonight even though he had a massive offensive game, the team could not get quality looks in the half court with him running the show.
     
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    If you replaced Brooks with Lowry, even though Lowry is much better at creating for others, you would eventually see similar difficulties scoring when 3/5ths of your lineup is among the worst in the league at their position, offensively.

    I completely agree with you that Lowry is the better PG. I don't agree with you that even he and all the incredible things he does could overcome that much offensive ineptitude and lack of size (for defensive purposes).

    Ultimately, with this watered down roster, the best backcourt option is Lowry + Brooks intead of Brooks + (Ariza or Battier).

    If Brooks was out for extended time, you would see Lowry + whoever struggling to close out games as well. It would just look a little different.
     
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    Look on the bright side. As long as RA continues be a bonehead and put Battier, Ariza, and Hayes on the floor on the same time, we're headed for the lottery. Book it.
     
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    Exactly Lowry lacks shooting skills which can be compensated by Chase, Landry, but Brooks lacks help on defense and rebounds which can not be helped by Battriza and Chukola.....
     
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    Brooks defense is even worse that it appears, it's not just that he can't contest the passing lanes or bother a shot, it's the fact that with him in the game, the other team is free to run their offense unmolested. With Lowry, you see that he disrupts the other team's plays so they have to adhoc sometimes.
     
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    i am cold hearted with no loyalty , some will call me a jerk. If I was coach,I've already seen enough. After the Memphis game I'd decide to start Dorsey over Hayes and tonight only confirmed it more.

    lowry/taylor/budinger/landry/dorsey

    all you battier/ariza/scola/hayes nuthuggers need to understand this is a youth movement, rebuilding on the fly, and frankly the bench is better than the starters in every position except sg. But thats debatable. Battier is not in the long term 3yr plan. Why even have him? Let him win before his career is over by trading him to where ever he wants now. Trade him for an expiring .

    Ariza obviously is skilled but poor shooter. even if Taylor is blind Im sure he can shoot better than ariza

    dorsey has finally controlled his foul problems, start him over hayes

    brooks is great,maybe he is the only starter Id keep over the bench,but its close.
     
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    If we could get one good shooting guard i.e. Iggy or butler, then, brooks has to come off the bench with lowry starting. It would be disastrous to start plays brooks with a major offensive weapon on the wings.
     
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    if Brooks or Lowry could make a floater off a pick and roll like Chris Paul then our offense wouldnt bog down. the pick and roll is such a fundamental play for PG's you can get a quality look by either shooting or passing to the roller.
     
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    Iggy and butler are not major offensive weapons. :rolleyes:
     
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    They are good offensive weapons. They can create shots for themselves.
     
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    I don't really consider Butler or Iggy ideal shooting guards but yes, I agree that with a legit scoring wing, Lowry should be the starter.

    I disagree that Brooks would be disastrous playing alongside a legit SG. I think that's an extreme statement, particularly if that SG possesses playmaking skills and Brooks is able to play off the ball more kind of like he does now with Lowry or like a Mo Williams does in Cleveland.

    Regardless, I agree with your general point. Lowry is the better overall player and brings more of the critical components you expect out of a PG plus some extras. In an ideal lineup, he's your starter.
     
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    Brooks: -14

    Ariza: -22

    Hayes: -20

    Battier: -20

    Scola: -12


    :eek:
     
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    They are better than battier and ariza yes...but not by any means "major".
     
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    With Brooks as PG, we didn't play NOTHING on the 4th quarter. He started to play alone and everyone else got out of rhythm. When we needed them at the end, they couldn't score, obviously, so Aaron kept playing alone.

    With Lowry, +21; with Brooks, -14. ... Now subtract that 2nd quarter run with Brooks playing alongside Lowry, and maybe he has a -25 at the PG position. Tomorrow people will look at the bosxcore and will say "Brooks 34 points, wow, he's a stud."
     
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    misleading stat. brooks will almost always have a low +/- and lots of negative b/c the starters just can't score.
     
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    philly changed their defense in the 3rd/4th quarter. they doubled brooks and landry, making them pass to an open teammate who couldn't create a shot nor could they finish a shot. can't blame brooks for this. he had to play alone because nobody else was doing anything even when he got them the ball. I'm not saying brooks is great or anything but with what he has to work with, he has to score regardless.
     
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    How many games do you guys think it will be before Adelman realizes the starting lineup just plain SUCKS? When we get John Wall?
     
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    The starters just played with inconsistencies and cannot score for a long period of time, only Brooks in the starting lineup can score to help us hang around, but without any assistances, he ain't gon be able to carry the load and lead the Rockets past any opponents. :eek:
     

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