Personally, I liked the U.S. versions of Rubber Soul and Revolver better, and I definitely prefer Meet The Beatles to With The Beatles. Those who have never purchased albums or cassettes will probably have no idea what I am talking about. Those who did know that there were different releases in both countries up until Sgt. Pepper.
Actually, Led Zeppelin did have a few changes in theirs- I mentioned one in the Zep-Who thread, but also for Physical Graffiti- this is the order of songs on the cassette: Custard Pie Rover In my Time Houses Trampled Kashmir Bron-y-Aur In the Light Down by the Seaside Ten Years Gone The Wanton Song Boogie With Stu Black Country Woman Sick Again Bron-y- aur was the last song on side one and not after In The Light as it is on the CD.
My biggest beef is with Rubber Soul- it has a heavy acoustic focus, with songs like Norwegian Wood, Michelle, Girl- and thus the perfect opening for that album was I've Just Seen A Face. Granted, Drive My Car is a very good song, but I've Just seen a Face was, IMHO, one of the best openings to any album ever.
Excuse me, with all due respect as a fellow music person, what are you, the ClutchFans police? No one forces you to read these threads. If you don't like them, just ignore them. I very rarely start threads on this board- very rarely, unlike some. So, if I feel like throwing out a few, I don't see the big deal. And they're not stupid, either- they're legit. Yeah, sorry for my whopping 3 threads over the past 6 months. Geez. And yes, to people whose favorite album might be Led Zeppelin II, that different song order is interesting based on how H.B./L.L.M. are played on the radio. You're a big fan of Born to Run, right? Do you remember how the songs were arranged on the cassette version? Hint: it wasn't Thunder, 10th, Night, Backstreets, Born, She's The One, Meeting, and Jungleland. It was a very interesting aspect of cassettes. (of course, if you were being sarcastic, which I didn't get from Mr. Sad Face emoticon, then I humbly apologize).
But here's the thing, dando. I like you and respect your views and opinions on music. Hell, if you ask me, you are one of the most underrated posters on this board. But take it from someone who has lived it - you post a bunch of threads on a specific subject and make them as narrow as you have and do it in a short timeframe, you are going to turn people off. No one starts a thread with the intention of not having posts in it. When you find yourself as the person that has like 80% or more of the posts in a thread you started, then that should tell you that the thread just wasn't a good connection with the board at that point in time. But, hey it is my opinion and like you said, I am not the police around here; I'm not even a moderator (not that I would want to be one). If you want to post a thousand music threads this weekend, go right ahead. Just don't be surprised if no one is responding or if they are, it is negative. And frankly dando, you are better than that. No offense but I am not sure why you even did this one; can people even buy the Beatles' US albums and why would they? The UK releases are the official ones and the way the artists intended their work to be released. To buy these US releases would be akin to buying compilation albums. And once again, don't get the wrong idea - if there is anyone who can talk about music for hours on end, God knows that person is me, lol. I would just like for other people to enjoy your post like mine without them saying something like "There's that guy that posted a bunch of music threads in a short time frame and he is NOT Manny Ramirez!"
Oh, please, I really don't care what people think on here- unless I was doing something really stupid- c'mon, do you realize Fatty Fat b*stard is still respected by a whole bunch of people on here in spite of the ire he's raised among others (I don't have a problem with him, but I know a lot do)? You're talking about millions of individuals who purchased the Beatles' U.S. releases- and yes, it's a legit question, that's what many of us grew up listening to- I'm sure there are at least a few people on here that know what I'm talking about. No offense, I respect anyone who loves music, but do you understanding how condescending it is to say, "You're better than that"? Why not just say "You're better than that, my son"? I don't post on a board worrying about how people are gonna react. I actually thought the "get off the crack" comment from the other poster was quite funny and didn't surprise me at all. What surprises me more is to get a lecture from someone who posts an insane amount within a single thread- you of all people shouldn't have a problem with this. I mean, what if I said, "Geez, do we need to find out every friggin day what this guy is listening to? How self-indulgent is that?" Wouldn't that piss you off? I've never once thought that about you or any poster- it's a freaking open forum, for crying out loud. Aight, there, I'm done with my lecture.
^ You say one thing but post another. You're a touchy sort, aren't you? Sorry I ever posted and sorry that you felt I was being "condescending" when I am just trying to get more people to see your posts on music the way I do - informative. But I won't make that mistake again - I don't need to be hit on the head over and over to get that. Good bye.
Yes, but that's the thing- people are going to see posts the way they want, regardless of what anyone else says about them. And speaking of being touchy, "hitting you over the head?" Hardly. Manny, you're criticizing me for posting in a thread over and over- really? I know other people post in that What Are You Listening To? thread, but do you realize how much you post in there compared to everybody else? I've never once thought you were being excessive- it's an open forum- that's all I meant. It just so happens that I have a 3-day break from work- a rarity for me- and I felt like posting a bunch of stuff. Believe me, after Saturday, you won't hear from me for months, it's going to be that busy. This was my rare exception. Hey, I just sent you a PM- no hard feelings, man. All those posts last night in the Smithereens- Pink Floyd thread were the result of like 10 White Russians and a full day off. Life's too short for Internet wars-you're right, I went on a Thread Binge and am now into full recovery. Lordy, lordy, lordy- the demon alcohol. Peace!!
Keep the threads coming, please. I've been enjoying them. I admire your persistence and we share a lot of the same favorites.
These are good polls. Rubber Soul is the only US album worth a crap. ITs far superior though - I;ve just Seen a Face is the perfect kick off to the 'wood and smoke' Rubber Soul. Drive My Car is totally out of place, why they lead off with it on the UK version is a mystery to me. But even Revolver is way better UK i think. Something New, the movie Soundtracks, Yesterday and Today, etc - nothing like the breathtaking albums from the UK. Beatles VI and Beatles 65 are okay I guess...Meet the Beatles is good...i dont know. I grew up on the US ones, but the UK win out.
I don't know, I guess it's different now because so many people download individual songs as opposed to CDs- I suppose it's good in its own way because it allows them to create their own playlists, CDs, etc. But I view the studio recording as a work of art much like I view a film or novel. Those 3 have many parallels- novels are generally the longer works in that art form as opposed to, say, short stories or even plays, films are longer than TV dramas or sit-coms, and albums are of course longer than individual songs (unless the album consists of 1 song like Thick as a Brick). The difference between albums and novels/films is that, certainly, the album doesn't have to tell a story. But, you know, some of the great albums do tend to have a theme, whether lyrically or musically. Rubber Soul is the 'smoke and wood,' as you noted. Hotel California deals with the California decadence, Rumours is the "breakup" album, Led Zeppelin III has the acoustic theme, Achtung Baby is U2's "electronic" album, etc. There's the cover, the liner notes, the time period when it came out, etc. And much like I appreciate a great novel or a classic film, I truly appreciate the album-as-art-form. The ironic thing about this, though, when it comes to the Beatles is that one of the reasons I prefer studio releases to greatest hits compilations is that I want to listen to the songs as the artists intended,and most G.H. packages are put together by the record company. So, the dilemma is that I should favor the U.K. releases as those are how the Beatles intended them. But, but, I'm sorry, The Beatles were wrong on Rubber Soul- I've Just Seen A Face is one of the best beginnings to any recording ever (acoustic guitar beginning and throughout sets the perfect tone). But it's the only group whose catalogue poses that unique challenge.
Manny, you have no reason to come into this thread and take a dump all over it. Just stay out if you don't like it.
Sure, he's sometimes a bit tl dr, and occasionally somewhat opinionated, and oh sure, the threads tend to be a little too argumentative... but who am I talking about? Seriously though, at least they've been about something interesting. I can see where Manny might have been considering that the music threads are starting to pigeonhole a bit, and maybe take this one as Dandyman flipping him a little shyte over it, and might even be trying to just say "don't contribute to us running music threads in the ground around here because I like them and they're a bit worn right now," but this thread has as much merit as any music thread, really, and has me listening to some Beatles this morning, so that's a good thing. I don't know about caring what album "I've Just Seen a Face" is on, but I do love the song, and I no longer own "Help!," so in this age of downloads I am adding it back into the collection , so... there's that. Thanks.
To be fair, I suffer from TDD- Thread Deficit Disorder- so if it's been awhile since I started a thread, I tend to go bats**t and spray a whole bunch at one time all over the board.
I didn't know there were different versions. *Maybe 'cuz Spanish is my native language. :grin: Manny, stop what, specifically?
