I am still wondering where all of the UT bashing is coming from. I don't understand why you can say that OU can never be ranked behind Texas because they are both one loss teams. Why doesn't anyone ever bring up the same argument about USC and Kansas State. Kansas State beat USC yet remains behind them in the polls even though they have the same number of losses. You don't hear Trev Alberts bring up that argument even though he likes where USC is ranked. And don't give me that bull**it that Texas is liked by the media. The first chance they get to drop us they do. We beat a team 41-0 and drop in the polls, Notre Dame is rated higher than Texas in all the computer polls they almost get beat by Navy and you know what Trev Alberts says Navy played a great game. If Texas barley beat Navy he would bash us to no end. Anyways, I know there is the argument we get all of the preseason hype only to be OU's b**** again. I am not saying Texas deserves to be ahead of Oklahoma because they don't, they beat us head to head. I am just saying if you are going to bring up that argument about OU beating us why does no one have a problem that USC is ahead of Kansas State.
We beat a team 41-0 and drop in the polls You forget to mention that that team is Baylor......UT covered the spread by half a point, they did what was expected...do you expect them to move up any more than they did?
Probably because nobody expects either of these teams to go to the Fiesta Bowl. Face it...if Texas went to the title game instead of OU it would be a travesty given the fact that OU CLEARLY outplayed Texas. Enter the vast media conspiracy argument.
And don't give me that bull**it that Texas is liked by the media. The first chance they get to drop us they do. Um....if anything, the media LOVES the University of Texas...they're ALWAYS ranked in the preseason top 3 or so, and they are in basketball this year as well....they went 0-4 against KU and OU in basketball last year, and supposed to go to the Final Four in some publications....
I'll agree that Texas is liked by the media. You put up strong enough arguments. I am talking about a couple of people in the media, you are right overall Texas is liked by the media. I am just sick of hearing that we got smoked by Oklahoma. We were not blown out. Hell we led the game for three quarters but got destroyed in the fourth quarter. I'm willing to say we got smoked in the fourth quarter which was the difference in the game but to say we got blown out is taking it a little far. Anyways the person I hate is Trev Alberts. He hates UT and it is a little too obvious. So what if we don't blow teams out give us a little credit for beating two very good opponents on the road (Nebraska is good at home not overall very good). He says we should never be ranked ahead of Oklahoma what if they lose another game and we don't. I don't think we should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma but to say we should never be is a joke.
This thread wouldn't even be made, had UT beaten OU. Blame Mack Brown, Greg Davis, Chris Simms, and the 10 mph wind.
Kidrock8, that is without a doubt a true statement. I wish our coaches would open up the game plan against OU. They are too interested in protecting Chris Simms. I will not bash UT coaches because as a fan of the team there is no real point. The truth is we would be in control of our own destiny if we beat OU and since we didn't we just sit back and hope either OSU or OU loses. It sucks that it has to be that way but we did it to ourselves. By the way why is it a true freshman can burn OU's defense but no experienced quarterbacks can do it. Case in point Brad Smith and Reggie Mcneal vs Seneca Wallace and Chris Simms?
By the way why is it a true freshman can burn OU's defense but no experienced quarterbacks can do it. Case in point Brad Smith and Reggie Mcneal vs Seneca Wallace and Chris Simms? Brad Smith is actually a RS Freshman....
Mduke, I wasn't saying we were supposed to move up but rather we shouldn't move down. Notre Dame barely beats Navy and they move up in four of the computer polls. How can someone justify that? Obviously beating Baylor does nothing for you but it sure as hell shouldn't hurt you. Do you really believe Washington State and Noter Dame are that much better than UT or OU for that matter.
yeah i've been reading a lot about the media not liking UT lately, what's up with that. i will say if we lose it seems like we get nailed, but when the season starts, they seem to love us which goes a long way toward helping your season-ending ranking. haven't we been ranked top 5 the last 3 years (like 5,4,2 i think?). 2 years ago i thought it was crazy, we finished 11 so they were off. last year we finished 5 so it wasn't crazy. it'll be tough, but we have a chance at #2 this year, so the media hasn't been overrating us terribly lately. however, to say they don't like us seems crazy. and how our bball team is #5 is beyond me. i know we were 2 points from the elite 8 and everybody is back, but #5 seems a little high. i consider that national championship caliber and i certainly do not see that for this team. i told my friend i thought overrating us was a football thing. apparently it has spread. anyway, media seems to like us. computers not so much. nytimes computer really not so much.
Austinite- To make myself seem more objective, all of the 1-loss teams such as UGA, WSU, OU, UT, etc should all question why they lost a game to begin with, before launching diatribes toward the BCS. I do think that OU should be ranked higher than UT, like how I think KSU should be higher than USC, that's tough for me, being a Pac-10 fan.
The worst person in the media right now is Trev Alberts. He says UT is ok. Just an above average team. Does anyone else feel that this guy hates UT?
I like how the coaches handle things. You win by a solid margin (they did) and you keep your spot or move up. YOu lose, you move down. You may be a talented team that caught a few bad breaks, but ya still lost. The ap scrutinizes a bit much. I don't think the writers appreciate the a "win is a win" motto that coaches go by. I wish the ap had scrutinized OSU's 4 point victory over Purdue. If that had happened earlier in the year, I think OSU would have dropped a few spots in the AP.
Alot of folks in the original big 8 resent the Texas teams and especially Texas. I think Texas has had the best sports programs in the big 12 since it's inception. ALot of history to the hatred, and I wouldn't put it past Trev (what kind of name is that for a grown man) to harbor resentment.
You mean those coaches who don't have time to watch the other games? Or the coaches who get their secretaries to fill out the ballots for them? There is no justifying UT being ahead of OU in any poll. Yet, UT fans are b****ing about the AP Poll, because they are tied with OU. UT is lucky to be even be tied with OU in the AP.
Right or wrong, there's a precedent for everything. As a fan, I just want to know what to expect. What you're saying is fine with me... when Notre Dame gets their trophy from 1993. I can't begin to tell how terrible it was to watch the Irish finish with the same record as Florida State, have the edge on them head to head, and not get the championship. Pretty much everyone I talked to said that "if Notre Dame was really the best team, they should've taken care of business against an unranked team", etc. Now, it's the same scenario again, and the AP voters seem to be saying the exact reverse. All I want is consistency. Either pick a win head to head or a loss versus a nonranked team as more important. It hurt like hell to watch ND finish second, but I always figured that one day I would be on the winning side of that equation, and it would be different. Now I am on the opposite side, and now suddenly it's the loser. Pick a damn scenario and stick with it.
Kidrock8, I know I am relatively new to the board so I don't have a right to say much, but do you dislike UT or what. You say some nice things about them and then you bash the coaches whenever you get a chance. What team do you root for anyways? My only point is we are probably going to get the short end of the stick in the end if none of the teams ahead of us lose, as a fan of course I am going to b****. It is true that OU own us and is therefore a better team than UT but what happens if UT blasts A&M. Then what do people say? There is no fu**ing way Notre Dame deserves to go to a bowl game ahead of us, especially if we win out and they lose to USC.
Also Cat, of course we are b****cing about the AP poll, because they dropped us after a win and a shutout no matter how inferior the opponent. Yeah, yeah other teams whooped the crap out of Baylor and we could have too but Mack didn't want to lay it on his friend. I am an objective fan and you are right OU should not be behind UT they should have switched places with OSU and be ranked third and we should be fourth. WSU does have a case like we had, the only team they lost to is undefeated but do you think OSU would beat UT on a neutral field. Maybe we will get lucky and that can become a reality but I doubt it!
That would make a ton of difference...if it had been a hockey game. I'm sure he sits up at night with a Longhorn voodoo doll thinking of ways to piss off Texas fans. While I think he is generally an idiot...I seriously doubt that he specifically hates Texas. Kidrock and I disagree on a lot of things...but he bashes the Texas coaches because they haven't been calling the right plays in big games...and it has hurt the on field performance.
