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BCS Projection: Sooners will be #1

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  1. drapg

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    according to CNNSI:


    BCS projection: Sooners will be No. 1
    Posted: Sunday October 20, 2002 9:19 PM
    By Stewart Mandel, CNNSI.com

    Oklahoma’s 49-3 win over Iowa State on Saturday did more than just ruin Seneca Wallace’s Heisman hopes. It likely lifted the Sooners to the top of the BCS standings.

    The first official rankings will be released Monday at 6 p.m. EDT. Jerry Palm, who replicates the BCS’ complex computer formula on his Web site collegebcs.com, has the 7-0 Sooners jumping from fourth to first following the weekend’s results.

    Either Miami (6-0) or Notre Dame (7-0) will be not too far behind at No. 2, the other at No. 3. It’s also too close to call between Virginia Tech (7-0) and Georgia (7-0) for No. 4, with Ohio State (8-0) locked in at No. 6.

    This year’s BCS formula is based 25 percent on the AP and coaches Top 25 polls, 25 percent on an average of seven computer rating systems, 25 percent on strength of schedule ranking and 25 percent on number of losses. There is a small bonus for “quality wins” over teams ranked in the BCS’ top 10, reduced from top 15 last season.

    Oklahoma scores well with the computers based on a tough schedule that’s included 6-1 Texas, 6-2 Iowa State, 5-2 Alabama and 5-2 South Florida, enough to lead 6-0 Miami despite sitting behind the ‘Canes in the two Top 25 polls.

    “Miami’s played Florida, which is not as good as you’d normally think, and Florida State, who’s already had a couple losses,” said Palm. “Miami also has a non-Division I opponent [Florida A&M]. Generally speaking that hurts you.”

    In terms of tough schedules, nobody’s tops the Irish, whose schedule rating is No. 1 following their 21-14 win over previously undefeated Air Force. Tyrone Willingham’s crew is rated higher than the ‘Canes in most of the computer polls and thus could be No. 2 when the official standings are released.

    Miami fans shouldn’t fret, however. Their team was only No. 4 when the first poll came out last season before winding up in the Rose Bowl and winning the national championship.

    “It’s too early to get worked up about it,” Palm said. “We’re not really learning much this week. We’re no closer to any decision now than we were three weeks ago.”

    Rounding out the projected top 10, there is a significant drop off from the sixth-ranked Buckeyes -- themselves not that far removed from No. 1 -- to No. 7 Washington State, No. 8 Michigan, No. 9 LSU and No. 10 Texas, all 6-1.

    “Teams ahead of them have to lose,” Palm said. “There’s nothing that really separates those teams, they’re all kind of the same.”

    N.C. State (8-0), the other remaining undefeated team from a major conference, is saddled at No. 11 due to a weak schedule that ranks 86th out of 117 Division I-A teams. The Wolfpack do have most of the ACC’s top teams remaining, but it’s unclear whether that would be enough to reach the Fiesta Bowl even at 13-0.

    “If they were the only undefeated team, No. 1 in both polls, they have shot,” said Palm. “But if they’re not, their schedule is really going to hurt them.”

    The rest of the top 15 will be Florida State (5-2), Iowa (7-1), Oregon (6-1) and USC (5-2).
     
  2. Smokey

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    Sooners and Canes. Can't go wrong with either one at # 1.
     
  3. ROCKSS

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    Dont be shocked if Virginia Tech is up there
     
  4. drapg

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    Die ND Die...

    If UT wins out, they could be #3 or #4, if all goes right. You know ND will lose 1 or 2. OSU will lose at least 1. Georgia will definitely lose at least 1. Either Va Tech or Miami obviously has to lose 1.
    We'd end up being behind Miami, OU, and Va Tech, but maybe not. Like Nebraska isn't even a top 25 team now. ISU dropped also. So our SOS dropped.
     
  6. TheFreak

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    The NY Times has Texas at 17! Idiots. Supposedly they picked them to win the NC...clearly they are acting like lovers scorned now after UT's loss to OU. Michigan sucks, no way they should be ahead of Texas.
     
  7. Major

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    The NY Times has Texas at 17! Idiots. Supposedly they picked them to win the NC...clearly they are acting like lovers scorned now after UT's loss to OU. Michigan sucks, no way they should be ahead of Texas.


    Not using victory margin messes things up. Simple thing now: Same number of wins and losses; Michigan has played a tougher schedule; Michigan is higher.

    I agree that it's ridiculous, but the BCS dumbasses make stupid changes every year to "fix" problems that don't really exist.

    Bottom line is that VaTech beating Miami 55-0 would look the same to the BCS as VaTech beating Miami 24-23 in every aspect except the polls.
     
  8. TheFreak

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    Yeah but Michigan's SOS is 29, only one better than Texas. LSU is at 26 SOS, and Michigan is ahead of them too. The difference is those two didn't have anyone rank them at 17 like the NY Times did Texas!
     
  9. Smokey

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    Would you rather be overrated or underrated?

    If we choke again (history seems to repeat itself often), I'd not like to hear over-rated over-rated.
     
  10. Baqui99

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    I guarantee that if we win out, we'll at least be in the Sugar Bowl. Sugar Bowl officials have wanted us back for years, it's just that we haven't done our part. They'll likely put us up against LSU. That would be an awesome matchup for us.

    One thing I've always wanted during my time here at UT is a BCS bowl berth. I think that by winning out we finish 11-1, and earn a shot. However, call me cynical, but I'm already saying that it's going to be an OU-Miami Fiesta Bowl. OU might even win the damn game. They get better every week. Here's a list of Texas' remaining opponents:

    ISU
    @Neb
    @TTU
    Bay
    A&M

    I don't see us losing any of these games.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    I could see us losing at Tech, especially if OU chokes and loses two games between now and then. Mack Brown's ass will tighten up so fast if that happens.
     
  12. Smokey

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    Horns and Tiggers in the Big Easy would be sweeeeeeeet!

    Right now I want us to play in the Big 12 title game cause I got 2 really good tickets.
     
  13. TheFreak

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    You want to see Simms go up against that D? I don't know about that...
     
  14. Manny Ramirez

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    Don't get mad at the NY Times, get mad at Kenneth Massey.

    The BCS throws out the lowest computer ranking for each team; therefore, the #17 ranking by the NY Times has no impact on Texas's standing in the BCS rankings.

    However, that damn Kenneth Massey ranking of #16 does have an impact.
     
  15. michecon

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    FYI, The difference is that Texas played only one top 15 team and lost. I find the hatred for Michigan on this board is quite unbelievable.
     
  16. michecon

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    And it won't get much better even if Texas wins out the rest. But if MIchigan wins out the rest, they would have to beat another 2 top 15 teams.

    Now, go on with your Michigan sucks troll.
     
  17. dylan

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    Don't worry, you won't have to hear much talk about Michigan after Iowa takes them down this weekend. Go Hawks! :D
     
  18. 4chuckie

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    Don't worry it's not just Micigan it's hatred of the Big 10. Lot of Big 12 fans, sprinkle in a couple Pac-10 fans and you have alot of folks that don't like the Big 10.
    I'm a Buckeye fan so I get enough of it too, but hey it's all in fun!
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    I honestly didn't care about Michigan one way or another...


    until now.

    Go Hawkeyes!
     
  20. michecon

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    R95, How to get a hangou boy status? :confused:
     

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