My vote for yes....although some things sound far fetched I think the Man in the mirror is gonna be changing his ways......
I think he actually did the screwing. That's why he's in this predicament in the first place!!!! See what I did? I made a funny! It's actually a play on words. You see, the word 'screw' has a number of different meanings. What I did was use a different meaning than the one the thread starter used. Therein lies the (lame) humor.
Read on drudgereport this morning that they're going to bring forth the testimony of yet another security guard who saw stuff going on. This one was a bit over the top, too. You never know how a jury is going to go. Particularly when you're not in the courtroom hearing the testimony. The media does an AWFUL job covering legal proceedings. So I'd hesitate to guess. But it sure doesn't sound good.
I haven't watched one of those court re-enactments in a while, but the last one I watched was the accuser getting slaughtered by Jackson's defense attorney on the stand. Perhaps the DA knew that the kid's firsthand testimony was weak, so he put him on the stand early in the case...
One more thing....it was a HUGE blow to the defense when the court ruled that the prosecution could bring in past allegations of other children about abuse. So you trot in other people who alleged abuse...and other witnesses who say they saw it.
Anyone remember Chris Rock's last concert, as seen on HBO? "Another kid?!?! C'mon Michael, another kid?!....Yo, Michael Jackson's going to jail. He ain't gonna be able to moonwalk his way out of this one. ANd it's gonna be a sad sight when Michael Jackson goes to jail. "And it ain't even gonna be sad the day he goes in. It's gonna be sad like a month later....when that perm grows out of his hair; and the s**t's all nappy and gray; and his face is all f***ed up because he don't got the Crayola people to fix his makeup no more." Pretty much sums it up.
pun intended? a-he-he! i honestly dont think he is guilty. i think he is has serious mental problems and judging by the way he acts, out of his head on perscription pills, but i dont think he is a boy-f***er. its cliched, but i dont think he ever grew up. he either stopped mentally developing when he was about 12, or at some point in his adult life, just completely reverted back to that state. "got a light skinned friend, look like michael jackson, got a dark skinned frined, look like michael jackson" - slow jamz
I don't think Jako is innocent. He has definitely cross the line by sleeping with children. I bet most juries are gonna want to nail his ass for that, whether or not sex acts were involved. The boy and his mother are not model citizens. They also have a checkered past wrt to telling the truth in court. This gives Jako's lawyers a beachhead for reason doubt. I suspect the jury will not be able to go all the way. But the jury is not gonna want to see Jako walk scott free and may be of mind to nail him on a lesser charge (if the prosecutor has given them that option). If there are no lesser charges dangling in front of the jury, I expect the jury to hang. Any bets if the mother and the boy have already inked a book deal?
I don't think so either. Real pedos can fill their hard drives with pedo p*rn from the internet. Jako's hard drive was clean. I can see Jako blowing boys with terminal illness if he thought that that would somehow make them happy in some really f*ckedup way. Me, I would just bring in some Vegas hookers Just kidding.
I think we can all agree that IF he gets found guilty, the appeals process will be long and drawn out.
Can you imagine Michael in prison? He would be the most helpless person. What would be the bragging rights be worth to be the first one to have Michael toss your salad?
man, i gotta say...i'm not sure. if half of this testimony from his own staff at Neverland is right, then i gotta say it seems far more likely to me that he was touching kids inappropriately/in a sexual manner (which is all it takes) than it is that he wasn't doing that. given, i'm not in the courtroom...but from that testimony we've heard so far, i'm just not sure. i think from what i've heard so far, in my own mind i'd say he probably has done some of that stuff. the newest testimony is this...not sure if it will come in or not, but probably will given all the other stuff that's come in: http://drudgereport.com/flash3mjv.htm For the sleazy grand finale of the state's case against Michael Jackson, prosecutor Tom Sneddon hopes to present a shocking story of Vaseline and alleged sex abuse, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned. In a bombshell motion filed in closed court, Sneddon has obtained testimony from a former Neverland security guard -- a guard who claims he fetched Vaseline for an aroused King Of Pop! In 1993: "Jackson called Abdool and asked him to go to Jackson's car and get a jar of Vaseline from the center console of the vehicle and bring it to his bedroom.. "Chacon and Abdool opened the unlocked door of the black SUV, retrieved the Vaseline and headed for Jackson's bedroom. When Jackson opened the door to his bedroom, Jackson was wearing only his pajama bottoms, appeared sweaty, aroused and Abdool observed Jackson to have an erection under his pajama bottoms. There was a young boy, who he believed was Jordie, in the bedroom with Mr. Jackson." "Chandler was observed arriving with Jackson in Jackson's SUV. Chandler is in Jackson's bedroom when Abdool was requested to obtain the Vaseline and bring it to Jackson." Sneddon now wants the jury to hear the details. Developing...
MadMax, Let me restate. I do not think Jako is a pedo. Jako needs his own special category. I hope that as a result of this trial that Jako can never have access to children (even his own) without court supervision.
Maybe it's just me but I kind of feel sorry for the guy. He grew up under so much pressure and didn't have any kind of childhood, it's like he was expected to be an adult from the age of 4 or 5...maybe that's why he's treating all these kids that way by doing all sorts of weird crap with them. Hell, didn't he say he was having sex with grown women when he was like 8 or 9?
What if his staff of ten years ago is telling the truth (or better said the jury believes them), does that really help the prosecutor get past the allegations at hand (ha ha I made a funny), especially given the reasonable doubt the defense attorney have likely established wrt to the veracity of the boy and the mother? The jury may be convinced that Jako broke the law 10 years ago, but may not be convinced that in this instance he did. That is why I think the jury will nail Jako on a lesser offense if possible.
very true. so then it's a jury's decision. depends entirely on the makup of people in that room. but often times, a jury feels like if there's smoke, there's fire...and even if he didn't do this particular thing to this particular boy, they'd rather him not be out there to do again what they believe he did before with others. make sense?
I think he is as guilty as sin. There's just too much of everything even if the witnesses are a little whack. I think Jackson is taking the Bill Clinton approach on this one: "I did not have sex with that young child, Mr. Jordie!" "Depends on what the definition of is...is?" MJ is a sick, twisted nightmare of an individual who grew up with a child's mindset in a man's body. Combine his sexual urges with inherent homo-erotic tendencies of sleeping with children in the same bed....and you have Master Jacko the Bater who lives in his own fantasy world, throws money at problems, and sets his own laws...until the real law come's a calling. If this jury doesn't see through all his "I'm the victim" crap and ignores all the corroborating evidence, then their just blind. Not every witness is in a conspiracy to milk Jacko for money and tell lies. The accuser's mother is whack...yes...but there are incidents that happened that all witnesses have seen. What would possess Jacko the Bater, for instance, to lick the child's head? That's normal.