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Barack Obama for President

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. Batman Jones

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    Debate and discuss.
     
  2. Saint Louis

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    He's a tool just like the rest of the Democratic party. The Democrats are no better then the Republicans, they both serve the same master.
     
  3. Blitz

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    i dont understand.. is he a converted christian?? i know hes said hes christian but his name is hussein....
     
  4. StevieFlight3

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    I think his dad was Muslim, but his mom Christian, not sure.
     
  5. RocketMan Tex

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    Why the hell not?

    Oh wait...wrong race.... ;) :D
     
  6. thadeus

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    I'm going to be writing myself in I think.

    VOTE FOR THADEUS - I LIKE THE ROCKETS
     
  7. A_3PO

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    Unlike our current president, at least Obama has the intelligence to do the job. But I'm waiting for him to take stands on more of today's divisive issues (other than abortion) and I need to develop a sense of what he would actually do as president. If his themes stay too generalized and hazy in an effort to please everyone, he definitely won't get my vote. It's early and he's a newcomer to the national scene so I don't expect detailed position papers next month or anything like that. Right now, Obama as prez seems more like a concept and idea than something with meat on the bones.

    One thing is for sure: If he doesn't clearly define himself along the way, the GOP will do it for him and he will get smoked and left in a crumpled heap in the general election. IMO, he will either campaign as a "different kind" of liberal/progressive or possibly as a moderate.
     
  8. texanskan

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    John McCain!
     
  9. basso

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    I'm cautiously optimistic about Barak Hussein Obama. First, if he's ever going to run, now's the time. The race is wide open, with no clear successor from either party, and widespread voter uncertainty as to what they actually want. That set of circumstances is unlikely to repeat itself for the next 20.

    His relative youth and inexperience is a double edged sword. on the one hand he's a blank slate, and people can project their own hopes and dreams on to him- that's a wasting asset however, and if he waits opinions are likely to harden, and the more time he spends in washington the tougher it will be to portry himself as an outsider or reformer- two qualities voters respond to.

    on the other hand, we really don't know much about him. he is charismatic; "every generation throws a hero up the pop charts", and he will become the boy in the bubble if he runs, but he's largely just a fresh, pretty, looks-like-america face. the last two outsiders to move to the white house met significant opposition from entrenched insiders, and failed to build any sort of consensus for their initiatives. can BHO hold off the extremists within his own party, and reach across the aisle to centrists in the other?

    lastly, he's not Hillary, which is a major plus. Among current democratic alternatives he's by far the most interesting, and depending on his opponent, i could certainly vote for him. looking at potential republican candidates, BO vs. JM, i'd probably vote BO- i'm skeptical about the straight-talk express. but rudy g is what this country really needs, and he'd be my first choice. Rudy/Condi in '08!

    Deep down we really want the same thing- peace, economic security, justice...and free p*rn- lot's of free p*rn. we just disagree on how to get there.
     
  10. TeamUSA

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    Too early and too ambitious. He hasn't done anything yet. But I like the guy.

    This time, I'd rather go for Hillary Clinton. She successfully managed to run a puppet president ( Bill ) and there's no reason why she can't do it for herself.
     
  11. weslinder

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    I really respect Barack Obama, and I think what he's done is admirable. So when he burst on to the scene, I had to ask my friends from Illinois what he was like. And the opinion was almost universal: great guy, great speaker, true Christian, and possibly the most fiscally liberal (or Progressive as the cool people are calling it now) Senator in Washington. He's got JFK's personality and LBJ's politics.

    After that, his popularity made sense to me. He's the first true liberal to be a truly exciting of a politician since Roosevelt. Since then, to be elected as President, Democrats have to be very centrist (Clinton and JFK), have to first get the job some other way (LBJ), or win in a backlash (Carter).
     
  12. mc mark

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    Just curious basso but why do you find it necessary to address Obama by his full name but not give the same to Hillary, McCain, Rudy or Condi?

    I mean it's great that you would consider voting for him, just found it interesting how you addressed him.
     
  13. basso

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    it was tongue in cheek mr. olbermann.
     
  14. Deckard

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    He believes that if a person is saddled with a middle name he didn't chose, like someone who was given Adolph as a middle name because it had been in the family for 100 years, that person should be subjected to association with the evil historical figure who happened to also have that name. He views it as the American Way, and doesn't want to fall behind the Limbaughs and Roves of his party throwing the dirt, as they most assuredly will, if they don't already.

    Real class.



    D&D. Class is More Than a Subject Taught in a School or University.
     
  15. No Worries

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    Barrack gets most of the states Kerry got, but I am not sure if he could get any more. Maybe Ohio and Florida, which would be enough to get elected. Maybe not New Hampshire?

    His lack of Senate experience is a plus. His voting record is limited and much less of a political liability than say Kerry's or Frist's.

    Barrack, outside of a meltdown or a Dean Scream, will be the Democratic nomination, due to his charisma. More charismatic than Clinton and none of the baggage.

    HRC has got the brand name but not the charisma. HRC also can not win a general election; the battleground states are not ready for a woman president. HRC would make a A+ VP though. HRC could campaign and fund raise in the bluest blue states and let Barrack work the battle ground states.
     
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    Obama loves him some E85 fuel! He pimps it every chance he can get.

    He is likeable, young, bright, and a solid speaker. He suffers from blackitude, though, and Whiteyland will not elect him.
     
  17. basso

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    He's half-white. he'll gain as many votes as he loses on a purely racial, and racist basis.
     
  18. mc mark

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    Hey! At lest you didn't call him Balack!
     
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    Exactly. We're at least 10 years away from electing a black President. And the first one won't be a black Democrat.
     
  20. deepblue

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    What is the meaning of "fiscally liberal"?
     

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