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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Artesticle, Mar 20, 2009.

  1. Artesticle

    Artesticle Member

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    Anyone see this?


    Originally aired on March 13, 2009. Whether the government should fix the economy; the attainability of the American Dream; a proposal for universal pre-kindergarten; fencing in the U.S. border; increasing traffic and killer commutes; medical mar1juana.

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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    That was a GREAT show, thanks for posting, and why I want less government.

    DD
     
  3. Artesticle

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    I'm glad you enjoyed it. The 20/20 - Politically Incorrect Guide To Politics last October was nice also.

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  4. Rocket River

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    basically . . .after watching 3 of these things
    It comes down to . . .
    nothing should be universal . ..
    The good/superior Stuff should only be for people who can afford it

    i.e. 9$ a day Toll Roads [you poor *****ers gotta sit in traffic]
    i.e. Pre-K [You poor *****ers' kids will just have to 'be behind']
    etc

    The precepts are
    1. A minority of people should make an enormous profit out of it [i.e. a private corporation]
    2. only those who can 'afford it' deserve it

    It is only GOOD if these conditions are met

    Rocket River
    yea. . . .we get it
     
  5. DaDakota

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    River,

    You should watch them all, they are not all about that....

    You are right though, a lot of it was people that can afford these things complaining about the government wasting money on creating competition for them.

    However, they are right in that the government usually sucks at it...specifically Pre K education, as they are already screwing up at K-12...

    There is a balance though in getting something good for the poor and elevating them to middle class and not screwing the people that are doing well....

    This country is founded on people having opportunity, we need to find a way to give a hand up, and not a hand out.

    DD
     
  6. Artesticle

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    OK. Are you also in opposition to the Beltway 8 toll road because "poor" people cant use it? There are many things poor people can not afford, are you against all of them too? When I used to commute from Cypress I would only use the road one way due to the cost. That was my choice. Poor children are not doing too well with the current government public school system that they "deserve". I never went to a socialized pre-k and did just fine. There are many, many things that I can not afford however. Perhaps one day I will. Thanks.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Nothing wrong with that, but there is also nothing wrong with trying to help the poor......it is a delicate balance......

    DD
     
  8. KingCheetah

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    It is humorous that a reporter who built his career on scaring people with over the top stories - is now reversing course - calling out fear mongering politicians and media.
     
  9. Oski2005

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    A better title would be "John Stossel's Bull*****." Is he any different than Michael Moore?
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Considering Profits from the d*mn thing are not going to Houston Local
    YEA I am in opposition
    Considering that It has already paid itself off and it now almost
    pure profit. . .yet they still increasing and increasing the rate
    YEA I am in opposition

    Rocket River
     
  11. Artesticle

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    Well that is very understandable. That is your corrupt government in action. It is now just another tax revenue. But the idea of paying for the roads you use shouldn't be such an outrageous concept. I pay for nearly everything else that I use. I don't mind tolls, I just don't like dishonest government taxation.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    You do pay for your roads. . . Through Taxes
    Toll roads are like double dipping to me

    I think all this privatization stuff is nothing more than a way to NOT CLEAN UP what we have
    [people who don't want the government paying for anything .. got into office. . .underfunded it and overregulated it . . . .]

    The reason 'private' companies do it 'cheaper' is because they are not
    Overregulated and Underfunded
    We hold our government to a higher standard than these 'private' companies

    If these 'private' Pre-Ks wanna kick out all the stupid kids. . .we allow it
    then we want to applaud them because they have no stupid kids?????

    Rocket River
     

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