If they could. . .should the be traded? They are not that great and how many managers have they run and really .. they have never been able to close the deal I heard old boy on 610 get pissed talking about RESPECT my question was: Where was the respect for HAKEEM? and they are NO WHERE near the ICON Hakeem is Rocket River
hakeem was not under contract. hakeem's performance with toronto backed that up. again..i understand the problems you have with bagwell this season. i don't understand the problems you have with biggio this season.
I'm not sure what the heck it has to do with Hakeem. Why even bring him into this issue? Bags and Biggio won't be traded. Nobody will take Bags and Biggio is performing very well. They deserve respect anyways.
this season, biggio has been our most consistent offensive force. you have to get to the postseason first. should the giants have traded bonds because he didn't perform in the playoffs before 2002? should the red sox have traded ted williams? you keep players who help you get to the playoffs. you can only assume they will perform in the playoffs the way they did in the regular season. it's on them if they don't. but right now, you're paying biggio around $4 million and you have arguably the best leadoff hitter. that's value.
Bagwell signed his contract when he was still good. Dream's contract ended when he was already half the man he used to be.
Personally, I was always shocked and disgusted at how much more support the Astr0s and Bagwell and Biggio got compared to Hakeem and co. Hakeem gets over the hill and just about everyone is chomping at the bit to get rid of him. Bagwell and Biggio have CONSISTENTLY proven that they cannot take this time past even the first round of the playoffs, yet they are untouchable.
last time i checked Bagwell and Biggio have had no trade clauses for years. At the same time Biggio continues to perform at a high level at 38.
this is my point exactly Bags and Biggio . . . L'Astros in general . . have gotten WAY more respect and love than any rocket. . . and the Rockets have CHAMPIONSHIPS Rocket River
seriously..do you understand contracts at all? bags and biggio have contracts with no trade clauses. hakeems contract had run up. he was paid a ridiculous sum of money by the Raptors to do virtually nothing. this isn't about respect. it's about contracts. if the astros could unload bagwell's deal, they would have by now. they will definitely be throwing out the, "isn't it time to retire...let's talk about a buyout" conversation at the end of the season. you're comparing apples and oranges...guys under long term deals with guys who have no deal. and biggio...why is he part of your equation here, RR? i dont get it. at $4 million, biggio is a bargain this season.
Sorry and I don't mean to derail the thread but what is the problem? I simply posted a question asking doesn't this belong in the right forum becasue there is a forum dedicated to this material. People do the same thing all the time so what's wrong with me doing it Cheetah?
Trade Bagwell to the Red Sox so he can finish his career as a DH. Boston is probably the only team he would waive his no-trade contract for. Resign Biggio to no more than a 2 year deal for minimal $$, and have him be the first pinch-hitter/sub off the bench. He should not be starting in the outfield. His hitting has been quite good this year, but he is a defensive liability. The problem with the Astros is not management or front office, although front office has something to do with it. The problem with the Astros is age. They have a roster full of great players who are way past their primes. After this season, Clemens will be gone. They should not resign Kent. Lance Berkman needs to get out of the outfield and become this team's everyday 1B. Chris Burke needs to be brought up to be the new everyday 2B. Tommy Whiteman needs to be brought up....wonder if they can teach him to play 3rd. Carlos Hernandez needs to finally finish building up his shoulder strength and be brought up.
dylan -- I too get the impression than perceived racial injustice drives many of RocketRiver's posts. Whether it is railing on Bags and Biggio and comparing them to a black superstar, Kobe vs accuser, Michael Jackson vs the children, or whether it is taking the side of the player (Boozer) in the player vs. owner debate, it is a consistent theme. As someone with a background in psychology, I can tell you that it is *obvious* what is happening here.
