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Badman for Backup?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CriscoKidd, Jul 5, 2004.

  1. CriscoKidd

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    Yeah yeah, I know, I've made fun of the Malick threads too, but do you think bringing in Badman as the backup center is really such a bad option if we do happen to strike out on all the scrubby centers in fagency, esp if we use the MLE on barry?

    I saw some of the game pictures in the threads that someone posted and he looks like he has filled out a little. And he is supposedly an athletic freak ...

    Personally, the most affordable big man fa that I like the most is Etan Thomas, but more as a pf for the future, sort of in the Brian Grant mold. I like the idea that someone posted here, the TE and maybe a draft pick for Battie. I really like Battie's game, and think he'd be an ideal backup c/pf. He's a guy who can handle big minutes if Yao still has stamina problems, and he's a tough player.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    I hope they at least bring Badiane to camp.

    DD
     
  3. darkwarrior

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    i've been saying all along, if we're gonna sign a scrub to help with some of the backup C position just sign Badiane. At least we could develop him some and get him some Ewing coaching.
     
  4. xiki

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    Bad is in town, working out under JVG's eyes, playing against NBA competition.

    Bad, himself, is determining his country for next season.
     
  5. codell

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    I would hate to waste a contract on him if hes not ready to be a full time role player.
     
  6. KALIKULI

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    But how much can this guy accomplished behind Yao, since he has no NBA experienced? Let's bring in a through C/PF player!
     
  7. Panda

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    I was thinking about the same thing. It should be considered for the Rockets to sign an NBA backup center and Badman while bulking Badman up. Let them compete for minutes or add versatility to the game with Badman's athleticism and energy. This team lacks an energy guy and Badman can fill that role.
     
  8. SmeggySmeg

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    he barely plays in germany... yeah he should make a decent back-up in the NBA

    didn't realise it was crack season CK ;)

    one more year in Europe at least
     
  9. gucci888

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    Badiane isn't ready for the NBA and definitely not ready to back up Yao (who really needs rest sometimes). Since we are going to have to spend the money on a backup C anyways, we might as well spend it on someone that can do the job.

    The Rockets said they will have Badiane develop in Euro for 2-3 years and I'm pretty sure they will stick with that.
     
  10. Panda

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    Badman played significant minutes in his team's German championship run. The fact his team signed him to a 4 year contract shows confidence in his value.

    Come on, it's not like the centers in this league is any good. Most of them are just stiffs without skills. What does the starting center of the Timberwolves, the best regular season team, has over Badiane? Ervin Johnson is such a waste of space on the floor it's not even funny. Johnson and other stiffs are making a living because they have an NBA body, something Badiane can get - he's got the frame already. Badiane's offense is also better than Johnson based on what I saw last summer, and most important of all he's no stiff. Dude can fly running the court. Johnson has more NBA experience but how can Malick get experience if he won't play here?

    Now talking about readiness for the NBA, can somebody tell me was Darko, another Euro player, ready to play in the NBA when he's drafted? Based on what I saw he was not. Darko is in the NBA now because of his potential. The same thing can be said about Malick, who is still basketball young and lacked quality coaching and training throughout his short career. Of course Darko has more talent than Malick, but it's not like we are expecting Malick to show the potential of being a star, but merely the potential of a back up center which I think he is capable of.
     
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    I agree that he has potential. But there is alot of difference between second round potential and second pick in the draft potential.
     
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    See, here is the problem. We sign him to one or two years now, he is not ready, sucks a whole bunch, we drop him, he goes back to Germany, fills out, gets some actual basketball skills, then wants to come back to the NBA but can sign with anyone, signs with the Mavs, becomes a Rocket killer, the Mavs beat us 5 years in a row in the WC Finals. Crisco cries. rimbaud laughs.

    It could happen...just like Badman being an actual, decent NBA player this year.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Not really, not anymore....look at Manu Ginobli......

    People are taking risks at the top of the first and the 2nd rounds now.

    Badiane was a 19 year old raw rookie and the Rocks are drafting purely on athletic ability.

    Badiane is already a far superiour athlete to Darko...so if they both work as hard as they can.....who do you think will be the better player?

    The key is...who has the better work ethic and coaching?

    DD
     
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    Don't forget, there is another thing called talent. Some people simply don't have it, no matter how hard they work at it.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    True about the talent...however I would think that Badiane already has talent as he is playing basketball at the age of 20 in a league that is about top tier division 1 basketball equivalent.

    DD
     
  16. darkwarrior

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    that's really why we need a summer team. Can the rockets still make one? Or does the league set a date you have to make up a team by.

    Oh crap now i know why they didn't make one. Well how many rookies and 1 year players do we have? I think we could make one:

    Badiane
    Spanulois (?)
    Gaines
    Wilks
    Nachbar

    there's 5 right there. I dont know. We would need to sign up some other players but just get those 5 the bulk of the minutes. I have no idea how they do the summer league though, so if anyone knows, let us know.


    What reallly do you guys want at the backup C though? "Badman" brings hustle, rebounding and shot blocking to the position, and i can see him being our dalembert
     
  17. CriscoKidd

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    I thought that was the Eddie Griffin story.

    I still think he's going to revolutionize the game with his no arc jumpers.
     
  18. SmeggySmeg

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    ROFLMAO great stuff boys

    what about Boki, could he become a rocket Killer?
     
  19. silent j

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    I wouldn't go singing the praises of that league.....
    From what I can tell, they only play 10 games and Malik played in 9 of them:
    http://www.euroleague.net/ulebcup/noticia.jsp?temporada=E02&jornada=31&id=102
    Not exactly all-star numbers. He did fair better in the division 2 league:

    http://www.euroleague.net/ulebcup/noticia.jsp?temporada=E02&jornada=31&id=196

    I know it's just numbers and he is still very young ( did I hear Rudy T?) but I think the jury is still out on whether or not this guy is ever going to be an NBA player at all much less this year.
    But that's okay, not many 2nd round picks are NBA players. I think we should let Van Gundy and his staff be the judge and stop adding new threads every couple of weeks calling for Malik to be our back up center.

    But that's just me.

    j
     
  20. Sane

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    Sitting on the Rockets bench will improve him more than being a backup in the German league.


    At least if he comes here and DOESN'T play, he'll get some proper weight training, coaching (Ewing), and JVG practices. If those 3 things don't prepare him for the NBA, I don't know what will.
     

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