F.A.R.T. trade or not? http://www.nypost.com/sports/knicks/50157.htm I was reading this article from the NY Post & decided to wonder out loud, as to whether or not it would be a good move by both teams. I'm not endorsing such a trade & I'm not sure I would pull the trigger on it, even if it were offered. However, it does offer intriguing possibilities. For those that aren't interested in clicking on the link, the part of the article that I'm referring to is: Several league executives say once Sprewell gets healthy, the Knicks, with James Dolan’s blessing, will shop him vigorously again, with Portland and Dallas being potential landing spots. Dallas has stated in the past, that Finley/Nowitzki/Nash are off limits. I've never heard LaFrentz's name mentioned in any NY trade talks & he's a BYC player. That just leaves Van Exel & spare parts for Dallas to offer. Portland could offer a nice package of young players & expiring contracts. However, it's unlikely to include Bonzi Wells, since he's also a BYC player. Since we are a predominantly guard oriented team, imagine the 3 headed juggernaut of Francis/Mobley/Sprewell, with Griffin/Yao(starters) playing the roles of defensive stoppers. Here's my trade proposal: Houston sends Taylor/Cato/T-Mo or Hawkins or Maddox/Chicago's Drew obligation to NY. NY sends Sprewell/Doleac to Houston. Doleac could be platooned at the center spot with Ming/Griffin/Collier, until Ming is ready to fill the position full time. Sprewell could play the SF position. Cato is playing very well so far, but everyone knows that Ming will be the starter by the end of the year & Cato is too expensive to be coming off the bench. Moving Taylor would ease the log jam at the PF position. We could afford to lose one of T-Mo/Hawkins/Maddox, if we got Sprewell. Doleac's salary expires after this year & Spree's expires in 3 years. NY would move a 32 year old player & replace him with 3 young players with skills. Cato would give them a legitimate center. Taylor brings them a player that can score & score often to team up with Houston & one of the other 3 would also fill a need position on their team. Would you do it, or would you just stick with what we have now?
the F.A.R.T. stuff is ridiculous. Please lets all stop feeding heypartner's ego by following his tripe.
I would stick with what we have. Sprewell has caused trouble wherever he has been - plus, at this stage of his career, I even doubt that he would be an upgrade skill-wise.
we need cato, and look at how we play without taylor. this trade blows. sprewell is totally perfect for portland, let me tell you that. hed fit right in there.
mmmm tripe although not sure i want to follow HeyP's stomach lining Green tripe is the edible lining and accompanying content of a cow or other ruminant's first or second division of the stomach. Paunch tripe comes from the large first stomach division and honeycomb tripe comes from the second division. It contains a very diverse profile of living nutrients including enzymes, omega 3 and 6 fatty acids, probiotics, and phytonutrients. It has long been quoted as being "the finest of natural foods".
Let me know what thread title you want. The "FART" stuff has gotten way out of hand on the board. It's nothing personal - your thread just happened to push me over the edge with that thing. Reason #1474 why I hate heypartner.
With Cato's playing well recently, I thought about what NY might be willing to give up to get him since they need a big man. I'm not saying I think we could pick up Spree, but I did think about whether I'd want the Rocks to acquire him, if he were available. I think I'd be more interested in doing that if we were farther along than we are. For instance, bringing Clyde in in '95 was fabulous (of course, hindsight is always 20/20). We were already contendors, but Clyde filled a need that yielded a championship. But Yao's not ready yet. Neither is Eddie. We need Cato and Taylor right now. To me, bringing in Spree is pointless unless we want to challenge the elite in the West this year or next year. The guy's not getting any younger. We already have a veteran presence in Glen. All Spree brings is defense. But having all this depth is such a plus. I'm not interested in trading any individual player right now, but with our talent, it is conceivable that we could nab a big-time forward sometime without gutting our core, similar to the Clips getting Andre Miller this year. I'm not advocating that we do such, but it's nice to feel like we have that option.
We already have excellent one on one players (who don't neccesarily pass). Sprewell's defense slips every year he gets older, and we already have a former hasbeen Knicks SF in Rice. The issue is already moot anyways... Layden would second guess the deal as too good to be true and demand Mobley and some 1st and 2nd round draft picks from the Rocks...
I can't believe I'm typing this but..... We need Cato ourselves right now. He's playing awesome ball and Yao definitely needs time to keep developing. We absolutely need the Cato/Yao 2 headed center for awhile. If Cato keeps it up,we may need to keep him permanently! Now if you'll excuse me I need to look through the yellow pages so I can make an appointment with a psychologist tomorrow. I need to know if I've gone nuts or if Cato may actually start/keep earning his money.
I just like clicking on anything with the word fart in in. If someone made a poll where all of the shoices had the word fart in them I don't know what I'd do.
Houston is the only player on that team that has any trade value. Maybe Kurt Thomas. Either way, I don't want them on the Rockets.
This is what I would do. I would leave the team alone, let them get healthy, and watch them build chemistry, start to kick @ss, and win 45 to 50 games an make the playoffs. Then after watching them get some playoff experience I'll watch them cruise to 50+ wins next year and make a good playoff run.
Houston's good, but he's never leaving NY with that contract of his. That's one of the biggest mistakes in Knicks history that contract. What everyone fails to see is this: Spree played extensively at SF last year, and he obviously failed the test. Imagine the West? Marion, Garnett, Stojakovich, etc.... The only thing he showed last year was that he's a SG, not a SF. Stoudamire and Ruben Patterson for Spree sounds just about right.
BTW, if the Knicks wanted Cato, they could just send us their injury exception from McDyess going down. But, again, Cato is one of the most important players on this team. He's more valuable than any ONE Forward on the roster.
No offense, but I don't think people were following it because of the potty humour as much as from a need to stop all of the ridiculous trade proposals. Think of it just as a backlash from a summer that was just too long. Back on topic...what would we want with Chokewell? He has disassociated himself from two teams so far, makes a ton of money, and certainly hasn't elevated the Knicks game all that much. I think adding Spree would be the opposite of the cliche: "addition by subtraction".
Spree would probably be best in a backcourt with Payton. Spree needs a proven/veteran/no bull**** player like Payton to keep him in check. Can you imagine Payton/Spree? Some would say that's the best backcourt in the league. Whatever they lack in offensive skills (not much), they make up in experience and incredible D. With Calvin Booth/Jerome James going for blocks, that would be an excellent defensive team. Would this work? Spree + Kurt Thomas for Desmond Mason and Booth or James.
