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Back to Gundy Ball??

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by rockets fan, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. rockets fan

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    Anyone else getting the feeling that since Tmac's been back we've been slowly abandoning the type of offense we've been playing that ignited the recent resurgence in our play? So much for slowly implementing Tmac into the Rocket's offense, more like implementing the Rockets into the Tracy McGrady offence. The past few games have been so ugly, it make JVG proud. Discuss.
     
  2. RareAir

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    agreed.....
    I'm not sure i like TMAC playing the point cause all the rest of the team does is stand around and watch.

    I thought RA's new offense was supposed to be predicated on playing TMAC off the ball and getting him easier buckets....
     
  3. DaDakota

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    I just don't see it, they really got out and ran tonight sure they had a lot of turnovers, but the effort was there.

    And Tmac at the top of the key or Yao on the block is hardly Gundy ball.....it is just typical basketball...

    DD
     
  4. rox4lyf

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    we're winning can't complain bout that
     
  5. Hydhypedplaya

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    Its not really Tmac..i mean even when is on the bench i didn't see much of a motion offense
     
  6. apocclass

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    it just seems that way because certain guys (rafer) are no longer finishing drives to the hoop and shooting from 3 as well as they had. dont blame t-mac for that because he hasnt even been starting. tonight we had the same starting lineup that we'd had when t-mac was out and they couldnt hit ****.

    and remember this team is still kind of built for "gundy ball". we probably could have won with "gundy ball" last year if we had guys like landry and scola, and more consistent 3 point shooting. so, we'll just have to see what happens. i dont really care how we win, as long as we win.
     
  7. badgerfan

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    It's a tough, tough call I think. The last couple of games have been really ugly. T-Mac has been looking to dish out the assists, he made some cuts when he didn't have the basket, there was some passing around the perimeter tonight. It was just such a fugly game I'm not sure what to think.

    I do think Brooks should have handled the ball more tonight. Although it seemed to me that he did take over more of the point duties from T-Mac as compared to the previous game against the Sonics.
     
  8. rockets fan

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    Maybe it just appeared that way to me because our role players have been reduced to crap since his been back again, not including this game of course.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I don't see this. We were winning against very soft teams without t-mac and still losing to good ones (orlando the only exception).

    Yao was shooting terribly, and the rafer was playing well....as was head.

    But you look now, and tonight, you had 8, let me repeat that, 8 players who scored 8 or more points.

    The team again had a lot of assists. And we've won 4 in a row. The action was fast, and there was many more points scored in transition and much more transition. In fact, had rafer and brooks not combined for 8 turnover's - many on transition, and head converted better on transition, this game would have been a blow-out.

    Whenever you play really hard and physical, it's not going to be pretty. Portland isn't Minnesota or even Toronto. They are younger, and more atheltic, and on their home court.

    We too it to them tonight and got dirty to win this game. That's more important then looking like the old sacramento kings.

    And t-mac was not dominating the ball at all tonight.
     
  10. abc2007

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    Funny! 3 rookies don't know Gundy!
     
  11. BucMan55

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    He did for a select few possessions at the end of the game. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Dwayne Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Baron Davis all do that from time to time.
     
  12. Ashes

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    Are we not winning?
     
  13. SuperStar

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    Without a legitimate point guard this is the best type of offense. Look how much better the Lakers looked when Fisher came back.
     
  14. badgerfan

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    I was actually going to send some praise T-Mac's way for letting the rookies get some quality touches in. He jacked up all his contested jump shots fairly early in the game and then settled down in the fourth.

    I did think it was pretty uncool the way he got down on Scola though. It's not like Scola was the only one throwing up air balls.
     
  15. rockets fan

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    we were winning more playing a similar style last year, and we all know how that gameplan translated in the playoffs. Team is watching Mac way too much when he is iso-ed. The crisp passing that started the recent good play has been gone since the 3rd quarter of the Philly game.
     
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    we lost last yr on 2 plays down the stretch, particularly the offensive rebounds. u think had we have landry last yr we would not get those??

    also, we didn't play well on the road in utah last yr. u think with the young guns we have, we would have more than 4 freaking guys to score in one playoff game?

    we had 28 assists last night. we have 8 guys scoring tonight.

    JVG-ball is fine and could have won last yr had we have depth and better role players. we have those now.

    adelman's offense is just to alleviate the pressure through the first 3 quarters. in the 4th, u put the ball in tmac and let him dominate, either passing or scoring for himself. kobe, bron, wade, davis, roy, melo, iverson... all the best perimeter players do it.

    that's not JVG-ball technically. it's called "smart basketball." u go to yao or tmac when u can. it's like how we start games. we pound the ball into yao. that's "jvg-offense" isn't it? it is, but it's also smart offense.

    hell u put landry, scola, and brooks on that 04-05 team, we would have won the whole enchilada.
     
  17. Nelly

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    The game plan didn't translate b/c alston, head, juwon, and battier could not hit an OPEN shot.
     
  18. BucMan55

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    fixed :D
     
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    The definition of Gundy Ball = low scoring games below 85.

    But that's not Gundy's offense.
     
  20. choujie

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    3 rookies on the court can never be called Gundy ball.
     

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