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Baalbek the last stand?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ROXRAN, Aug 1, 2006.

  1. ROXRAN

    ROXRAN Member

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    From what I'm hearing on the news is this may be the straw that breaks hezbollah's back due to the key location. If the IDF can take the strategic town of great importance,...Can this lead to the culmination of the multi-task force?

    Please excuse a lack of link, but all my intuition says this is of great importance concerning overtaking Baalbek...I'm all for the ground attack...but major Israeli operations is now underway, and this IS a good thing...Once IDF has severly weakened hezbollah, then a multi-task force (with teeth) will have a better foothold...

    There are many steps towards peace,...I want peace... but step #1 is you know my feelings on that. Who's with me?
     
  2. tigermission1

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    Yes, there are intense battles going on there, but I am not sure how one town is going to prove to be the 'straw that broke the camel's back' in the case of Hezbollah, although it is a strategically important town. The latest news I heard was that Hezbollah is trapping Israeli soldiers inside a hospital in the city.

    Regardless, this is most likely the last major battle before we have a ceasefire...
     
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  3. ROXRAN

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    I heard that too, but the training ground and base being compromised in eventuality would be a welcome strategy in the war...

    I feel there will be more on this area, with news to come. It is suppose to be a major operation that should eventuality lead to objectives being met.
     
  4. Ottomaton

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    Part of the problem, of course, with fighting someone like Hezbollah is that they can dissolve themselves among the general population, escape, and reconstitute somewhere else.

    I think it will be very difficult to have a single culminating battle.
     
  5. Franchise2001

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    I'm with you. Kick their asses Israel!!
     
  6. mrdave543

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    I still do not understand why Israel should have to stop fighting. Because the UN says so and the US/UN come up with a bogus peace plan? They should be able to complete their mission, which is destroy hezbollah until they are no longer able to carry out their attacks on israel.
     
  7. Dubious

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    "weakened hezbollah"

    Rox, did you not see Spartacus?
    There are a billion MF's out there who can find their 'special purpose' in the destruction of Israel. This **** ain't over this time or any time.
     
  8. tigermission1

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    I hope they do a better job at it than the last time around, when a full invasion/occupation of Lebanon produced nothing but disaster for the Israelis; the last invasion helped bring about the current party at war with Israel. I wonder what this one will help bring about?

    We will see...
     
  9. mrdave543

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    I completely agree this is a war that will never end...its sad because it is clear the sides can not live together or near each other with one of the other's radical groups causing trouble. I really wish there was an answer but I fail to see one ever
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    Hey Israel, you can't destroy Hezbollah.


    You can't destroy Hezbollah.


    You can't destroy Hezbollah.


    Oh yeah, you can't destroy Hezbollah.
     
  11. CometsWin

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    They should stop fighting because it is in their best interests. Hezbollah, just like the Viet Cong in Vietnam and Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, cannot be defeated militarily as long as they have popular support and an outside supplier. Killing innocents in large numbers guarantees popular support and short of declaring war on Iran, they'll continue to be funded and supplied. Israel gets an D in history.
     
  12. KingCheetah

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    Israel is kicking as much ass in Lebanon as the US did in Iraq. Unless there is a total war Israel will be just as stuck -- f'ing around with insurgents as the US is in Iraq.

    I'm not supporting a total war by any means, but that is the only way. One side has to have complete and utter victory. The history of war on this planet supports this and currently Israel isn't in a position to start melting their enemies yet. What i'm getting at -- ahh never mind...
     
  13. Ubiquitin

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    The more I learn about the IDF and its history, the more I hate it. The IDF is the original terrorist organization in the Middle East. Supporting the IDF is the same as supporting terrorists. And the funniest thing of them all is that Israel is the ONLY government in the world that mandates all of its citizens join the terrorist organization. You'd think if the US was serious on its war on terror, Israel's Defense Force would the be the next bombing target. And if we followed the logic currently used, all of Israel would be destroyed because they're all terrorists.

    Oh, and by the way, war is wrong.
     
  14. mrdave543

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    Can u please support this with any kind of factual support? For you to even compare the IDF to a terrorist organization is as laughable as pathetic...
    You need to wake up and realize its not a perfect world and war is inevitable

    You are a disgrace....yes i am lowering myself to your level
     
  15. ROXRAN

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    War is RIGHT in the fight against Islamic facsicm (terrorists)...Kill them ALL is a noble pledge.
     
  16. mrdave543

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    Amen, wish I could join them
     
  17. Dubious

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    Dude they have to, they are outnumberd about 100 to 1.

    There's no right in this fight and you can blame it on Hitler, that ass wipe.
    And on the eroneus assumptions of the West after they defeated him but know that they were blinded by compassion for the jews they had seen suffer so much.

    The US made their commitmant and like a catholic marrige, right or wrong
    we will stay commited.
     
  18. ROXRAN

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    If you want peace like I do, then the acknowledgement of step#1 is the way to get it done...Hezbollah doesn't want to co-exist. They teach their children the brainwashing virtues of suicide...The Islamic governance that Hezbollah wants such as Iran instills "morality police", and as pointed out by someone with better knowledge than me, WILL allow a girl to be RAPED before BRUTAL EXECUTION on meaningless reasoning...It's Evil. Hezbollah is EVIL!...How can anyone support this manner that will bear resurrection against the lebanese people?

    Step#1....

    It doesn't mean a complete annihilation, but it is the way to a long lasting peace...Isn't this what we all want?
     
  19. Dubious

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    Back off the coffe there cowboy, you'll break somthin.
     
  20. Ubiquitin

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    I'll provide two examples seperated by almost sixty years. The IDF began as the Haganah, LEHI, and Irgun organizations. On April 9, 1948, LEHI and Irgun killed 250 of Deir Yassin's civilian inhabitants post fighting. (New York Times, A6, April 10, 1948). And for today's example we look at the current conflict. "The Israeli air strike on the southern Lebanese village of Qana in the early hours of Sunday killed at least 54 Lebanese civilians, mostly children." (Qana bombs an Israeli 'war crime', BBC News, July 31, 2006, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5232434.stm)
     

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