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B-Fro to Nola: Drop dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 19, 2009.

  1. basso

    basso Member
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    Frodo, we hardly knew ye.

    [rquoter]Democrats strike different tone on Katrina

    By BEN EVANS, Associated Press Writer
    Thu Feb 19, 11:38 am ET
    WASHINGTON – The economic stimulus signed by President Barack Obama will spread billions of dollars across the country to spruce up aging roads and bridges. But there's not a dime specifically dedicated to fixing leftover damage from Hurricane Katrina.

    And there's no outrage about it.

    Democrats who routinely criticized President George W. Bush for not sending more money to the Gulf Coast appear to be giving Obama the benefit of the doubt in his first major spending initiative. Even the Gulf's fiercest advocates say they're happy with the stimulus package, and their states have enough money for now to address their needs.

    "I'm not saying there won't be a need in the future, but right now the focus is not on more money, it's on using what we have," said Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., who has criticized Democrats and Republicans alike over Katrina funding.
    It's a significant change in tone from the Bush years, when any perceived slight of Katrina victims was met with charges that the Republican president who bungled the initial response to the disaster continued to callously ignore the Gulf's needs years later.

    Just last summer, Democrats accused Bush of putting Iraq before New Orleans when he sought to block Gulf Coast reconstruction money from a $162 billion war spending bill. Bush was pilloried for not mentioning the disaster in back-to-back State of the Union addresses.

    Former Rep. Jim McCrery, R-La., who helped lead the fight for Gulf aid before retiring last year, said he was surprised by the lack of Katrina money in the bill, but figures lawmakers may be granting Obama leniency due to the magnitude of the country's current economic challenges.

    "Any new president is going to have a little honeymoon," said McCrery, who is now a lobbyist. "I'd like to think that the tone would have been the same with any new president."

    Thomas Langston, a Tulane University political scientist, said Democrats may be "playing nice" to keep in good favor. But dire needs remain, he said.

    "Hopefully they've gotten some promises behind the scenes about longer-term commitments," Langston said. "Like most people down here, I would hate for anybody to get the impression that, 'We're good, thank you.'"
    Katrina was blamed for more than 1,600 deaths and $41 billion in property damage. Critics say the Gulf Coast remains vulnerable to similar devastation without significantly strengthened levees and other flood controls.
    The federal government has devoted more than $175 billion to the region since Katrina ripped through New Orleans in 2005, and billions remain unspent. It's unclear how much more money will be needed, but nearly everyone agrees the federal government should continue investing heavily in the region's levees and other infrastructure to prevent a repeat of Katrina's devastation.

    Under the $787 billion stimulus bill, states will share more than $90 billion in infrastructure money. Gulf states such as Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama can use their funds for Katrina-related projects, but they'll get the same formula-based share that other states receive.

    There was hardly a complaint as Obama and other Democratic leaders pieced together the package. Members of the all-Democratic Congressional Black Caucus, who have called Bush's Katrina funding a moral failure, said they were thrilled with the stimulus bill. Landrieu won several provisions that do not allocate new money but are aimed at cutting through red tape to free up existing funds.

    "I think people looked at how generous Congress has been in the past," said Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., who chairs the House Homeland Security Committee. "(The states) have to demonstrate that they can be good custodians of the money."

    Thompson and others say new funding wasn't necessary in the stimulus largely because billions of federal dollars remain bogged down in bureaucracy or tied up in planning. As a result, they said, Katrina funding doesn't fit with the quick-spending purpose of the stimulus bill, which is aimed at kick-starting the economy.

    Ironically, Bush made similar arguments in recent years as Gulf advocates latched onto nearly any legislation they could find to pursue reconstruction money. For example, he routinely argued that Katrina funding didn't belong in war spending bills and that new funding wasn't urgent because unspent billions were already in the pipeline.

    In part, the lack of criticism this year could reflect a stronger trust by fellow Democrats that Obama will follow through with his campaign pledge to rebuild levees and "keep the broken promises" to the Gulf.

    Whether the grace period continues could hinge on how Obama addresses the issue in future spending bills.

    Without discussing specific funding plans, White House spokeswoman Gannet Tseggai said Obama is "dedicated to rebuilding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast and looks forward to working with Congress to ensure they get the help they so desperately need."[/rquoter]
     
  2. Refman

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    Who the hell is "B-Fro?"
     
  3. SamFisher

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    Basso how close to the line to making fun of developmentally disabled children can we get before you get offended.

    you like to make black-themed jokes or allusions about Obama for kicks, I am just wondering how far it goes in that direction by your standards

    Not that I ever plan to do it - I just think you should explain your line of thinking here for when you start threads like "B-Fro" that are obviously intended to bait people.
     
  4. Deckard

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    You are reaching for a new low, basso. I'm sorry to see it.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    Seriously?
     
  6. basso

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    Obama is developmentally disabled? did i miss something?

    and you've already done it, btw.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    And I'm presuming you mean with that post? If not please link me.

    For somebody who like to prey on other people's ethnicities for kicks - you're one sensitive young man.

    It's almost like the pot calling the kettle black.

    HA HA I said black.

    so funny!
     
  8. Bandwagoner

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    You get amused easily.

    are you r****ded?
     
  9. basso

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    please highlight where i'm preying on anyone's ethnicity in this thread.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    basso to reasoned discussion: Drop dead.
     
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    Just when you think a person can't get any more stupid.

    So now when Obama doesn't provide money to people who didn't ask for it, he's telling them to drop dead. That's just brilliant. Or completely ignorant.
     
  12. Oski2005

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    I'm sure you aren't stalling while you come up with some kind of explanation to "B-Fro."

    Seriously, "we're done professionally."


    It's not like you don't find articles that make good points, it's that you choose to add your little racial jabs like that and I have no idea why.

    added to ignore list.
     
  13. Bandwagoner

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    nice work on that "r"

    looks good
     
  14. SamFisher

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    maybe you're not preying, but obviously you are intent on making it an issue because you (1) are, and (2) have and, most likely (3) will.

    Just trying to get a sense of where your line is.


    p.s. nice one oski.
     
  15. Refman

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    B-Fro...ooohhhh....I get it. ha ha ha...that...that...actually isn't funny at all.

    Seriously basso, what is your damage? What has scarred and jaded you so badly that this is what you enjoy?

    Making racial jokes about the President. Pretty weak, dude.

    I get it...you don't like the President. I disagree with a lot of his politics. Our man McCain lost, basso. Obama is the President. Given where we are in our history, we need him to succeed.

    The nastiness in your posts about him trying so hard to find something to villify him accomplishes two things:
    1. Makes conservatives look petty and racist.
    2. Makes conservatives look like witch hunters in Salem. Maybe it is better to say the Republican who cried wolf....maybe.

    Perhaps we as conservatives should devise an alternative strategy on policy that doesn't come out of 1954 rather than to engage in the politics of personal destruction we railed against in the 1990s.
     
  16. A_3PO

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    People like you will eventually help steer the Republican party back on track so I can start voting your way again.
     
  17. mtbrays

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    I'm telling you: Refman/weslinder 2012
     
  18. Deckard

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    Terrific post. Too bad basso won't listen.
     
  19. basso

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    [​IMG]

    clearly you don't.
     
  20. pgabriel

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    i'll bite, why do you call him Frodo, its the second time i've seen it? does not compute
     

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