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Ayman al-Zawahiri may be dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Surfguy, Jan 13, 2006.

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  1. Surfguy

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    CNN Breaking News:

    "Pakistan officials are checking if a U.S. airstrike in Pakistan killed al Qaeda's number 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri, sources tell CNN."

    Somehow, I don't think it pans out... . Would be cool if it is true...I'm tired of him and his videos.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    It would be cool, but my guess is that instead we have killed one of the 34 different number 3 guys there are.
     
  3. VooDooPope

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    Since when are we doing air strikes in Pakistan?!?
     
  4. tigermission1

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    I heard his next single is the best one yet, it's already gone platinum
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    After reading a comment like this, it is small wonder why people accuse the liberals of not supporting the troops. You are in fact attempting to belittle a possibly great accomplishment by our troops. Why aren't you applauding their efforts? Seems to me like every time they slip up, you are there to jump all over them. You spread that news to all that will listen. Yet when they do something positive, you make excuses and speculate that the news may not be as significant as reported. How can you possibly reconcile this with supporting the troops?
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Please explain to me how believing unconfirmed news is supporting the troops any more than waiting for confirmation before getting excited is?
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    Your gut reaction says it all, FranchiseBlade. You speculate that the story is false. When your first reaction is to think of ways that the troops' success may not be true, then it is beyond obvious where your support lies: Not with the troops, but with the opposition. It's all partisan driven, which is disgusting.

    This happens so often with the libs. Every single time anything positive comes out of the War on Terror, they hope against hope that they can find a way to diminish the news, or wish it away. Why not hope the story is true, instead of disparaging it? How would you feel if the troops that have been hunting these terrorists read your posts? Do you think they would be appreciative of you perpetually belittling their accomplishments? They are making the ultimate sacrifice for our nation, and you have a large group of liberals doing their best to convince people that they are failing. Unbelievable.

    FranchiseBlade, how do you reconcile your gut reaction of finding ways the story may be false, with supporting the troops? How do you reconcile your eagerness to trumpet speculation of misdeeds and accidents by the troops, yet reluctance to get behind anything positive? It just doesn't add up, FranchiseBlade
     
  8. bigtexxx

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    Exactly. FrenchieBlade has to throw in his negative qualifiers to any potential good news from the war on terror. His true underlying beliefs are clear for anybody to see. I can read him like a book, despite his foolish claims to save face where he says that he's wanting us to win the war on terror...
     
  9. rimrocker

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    Come on, can't you see this is just like the guy who was supporting the miner's families by calling the church to tell them their loved ones were alive.

    Fact is, we're now killing this guy's ghost since there have been several reports of his demise over the years. If he is a goner for sure, then we'll cheer. After that, the administration will claim his death is a major blow to the terrorists operating in Iraq and we're turning the corner. When the death rate of our soldiers don't change because one guy (see Saddam, Saddam's sons) doesn't lead our opposition there, the administration and their lackeys will criticize the people who point this out, never pausing to think that endless cheerleading and pretend good news not supported by the facts and death tolls on the ground is bound to be more harmful to troop morale over the long run then the truth.

    I've never said "OK folks, that fire that's 75,000 acres can be handled with a frontal assault of a few hundred firefighters and a few gallons of water," or "those burned houses and businesses are no big deal, we're turning the corner." I would lose credibility with everyone instantly. Regardless of whether the reports of this guy's death are true, the administration and its supporters need to do a much better job of telling the truth to our toops and the American people. To hear people like TJ talk, our soldiers are idiots and can only function in a pretend environment. That's really selling soldiers and Americans short.
     
  10. mc mark

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    Boy! You came out of nowhere.

    Are you sure you two aren't the same person?

    hummmm....

    [edit] BTW I do hope we got him.
     
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    My gut reaction, and the very first thing that I posted was, that it would be cool.

    But having heard the following reports from mainstream, or conservative mainstream media outlets, then please forgive my waiting patiently for the confirmation.

    Saddam Hussein and his sons are all dead.

    The insurgency is in its final death throes.

    Osama is dead

    Osama is surrounded with no means of escape.

    Osama is probably dead.

    Osama and al Zawahirir are dead.

    Al Zarqawi is dead.

    WMD have been found in Iraq

    Mobile WMD weapons labs have been found in trailors in Iraq.

    Rumsfeld knows where the WMD are and points to it on a map.

    There are more than 180 Iraqi battallions battle ready.

    They have gotten the number 3 Al Qaeda leader

    They have gotten the number 3 Al Qaeda leader again.

    Of course I didn't even deny the claim flat out, despite these false starts that we have all heard before.

    My initial reaction was that it would be cool, contrary to your false claim that it was otherwise.

    Would you please explain to me how we are to accept that you live in the real world when you lambast people for not being enthusiastic when hearing unconfirmed reports, and saving the enthusiasm for the confirmation?
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Agian, you and TJ can claim that I have other intentions, but once again you can show no evidence to back those ups. You were shamed after a thread specifically for that purpose was made, and neither you nor TJ, nor Gwayneco, nor BAsso, nor anybody who makes those claims put forward any proof.
     
  13. Cohen

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    Based on all of the false initial reports of success over the last few years, FB's take is the reasoned, intelligent one.

    If the twins insist that this opinion must be a liberal one, so be it.
     
  14. Cohen

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    The war is over

    We won't need that many troops (fire that general)

    The war will only cost $x Billion
     
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    Totally outrageous and false. Your gut reaction was to brainstorm ways for it to be untrue. Your gut reaction was "It would be cool, BUT....." "It would be cool" was just thrown in there to appear less obvious in your hopes for it being false. And you know it. This is supported by a multiple-year record of you and the other libs wishing away good news from the war and rushing to tell all that will listen at the mere whisper of the troops doing something bad. Give us all a break and quit trying to hide your true intentions. You are way too transparent.

    Your gut reaction:
    4 disingenuous words in support of the story
    19 words revealing your hopes that the story is false.

    EXPOSED
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    But wait... There's more!

    Iraq has reconsituted its nuclear...

    Iraq sought to buy yellow cake uranium from Niger.

    Iraqi agents met with 9/11 hi-jackers!
     
  17. Cohen

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    'But but but... all of these mistakes were based on errors in intelligence!'



    Heh...they certainly were.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    FrenchieBlade can only survive in here because of the overwhelming number of liberals who dominate this forum. He's in his comfort zone. In any forum of equal support, he gets laughed out of the forum by the well reasoned posters such as ourselves.
     
  19. FranchiseBlade

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    You didn't explain how we are to accept you have any concept of reality.

    Nor did you explain how anything in my post points to a hope of it being false.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes, the multitude of facts and cases in the history that you and TJ have presented is a real font of information. :p
     

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