1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

August 15th: Possible Amnesty cuts?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hottoddie, Aug 7, 2005.

  1. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2000
    Messages:
    3,075
    Likes Received:
    15
    With the deadline rapidly approaching, I thought it was time to list all those players that might be available. Some will be solid players & there might be a surprise or two. Anyway, using HoopsHype as my source for contract lengths & size (take the reliability of the site for what it's worth to you),& looking at the player's age/production this last year & the teams cap situation, I came up with this list of players. If I've left some out, please add them to the mix.

    SALARIES

    Boston: Raef LaFrentz - 4 years @ $45+ million

    New Jersey: None

    New York: Allen Houston - 2 years @ just under $40 million

    Philadelphia: Aaron McKie - 3 years @ $19.5 million

    Toronto: Jalen Rose - 2 years @ $32.5 million

    Chicago: None

    Cleveland: Eric Snow (maybe?) - 4 years @ $25.5 million

    Detroit: While they're over the cap, I can't see them cutting anyone

    Indiana: Austin Croshere - 2 years @ $18.5 million (possibly Bender)

    Milwaukee: None

    Atlanta: None

    Charlotte: None

    Miami: None

    Orlando: Doug Christie in the last year of his contract will be of more value at the trade deadline. How about Hedo Turkoglu - 5 years @ $33.8 million?

    Washington: None

    Dallas: Michael Finley - 3 years @ $51.5 million

    Houston: None - (Maybe Howard - 4 years @ $26.6 million?)

    Memphis: None

    New Orleans: None

    San Antonio: Rasho Nesterovic - 4 years @ $30.4 million

    Denver: None

    Minnesota: None

    Portland: Derek Anderson - 2 years @ $18.8 million (I bet I got this one right :D )

    Seattle: None (Maybe Danny Fortson - 2 years @ $13.3 million?)

    Utah: None

    Golden State: Adonal Foyle - 5 years @ $40.5 million (If only we'd had the amnesty program during Cato's early years & all of Taylor's years. This is GS's chance to correct a mistake.)

    Clippers: None

    Lakers: Brian Grant - 2 years @ $30 million

    Phoenix: None

    Sacramento: None

    Oh well, there it is. As best as I can guess. See anyone you'd like the Rockets to pick up?
     
    #1 Hottoddie, Aug 7, 2005
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2005
  2. david_rocket

    david_rocket Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    Messages:
    9,488
    Likes Received:
    834
    I like Finley and Snow, and I think they should keep Howard and cut other player (Bowen, Wesley, etc)
     
  3. BigBenito

    BigBenito Member

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    7,355
    Likes Received:
    175
    You do realize... they JUST re-signed Bowen THIS offseason.
     
  4. Hottoddie

    Hottoddie Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2000
    Messages:
    3,075
    Likes Received:
    15
    The Rockets will most likely keep Howard, but this is a one time offer & you never know. Bowen was just resigned & waiving any player in his last year makes no sense. There'll always be a team looking to dump salary at the trade deadline.
     
  5. RunninRaven

    RunninRaven Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2000
    Messages:
    15,270
    Likes Received:
    3,215
    If Memphis cut Eddie Jones, I would love to have him, even though we are much better manned at guard than anywhere else...you can always use defensively sound, smart backcourt players.
     
  6. Desert Scar

    Desert Scar Member

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2000
    Messages:
    8,764
    Likes Received:
    11
    Of these I think the most realistic LLE signings who could contribute would be
    Allen Houston or Aaron McKie, if they could past physicals from our fairly conservative docs. Christie is another, there is a lot of talks he is set up for Dallas.

    Derrick Fisher for an LLE might be another amnesty rule created possibility.
     
  7. leehoang

    leehoang Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    900
    Likes Received:
    0
    Man... I hate Eric Snow, with a PASSION.
     
  8. VinceCarter

    VinceCarter Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 1999
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jaen Rose would be a perfect fit in Houston...this guy can knock down open shots like nobody in this league....its when he tries to be the man that he suffers ...i have never seen anyone as good as him in knocking down open jumpers...okay maybe i have...though still he will be a perfect fit.. his D is a little weak....though when motivated he can do an effective job....needs to play for a winner to get the most out of him....and plus he's getting paid 18M this year and won't be looking for money.
     
  9. bigdawgtt

    bigdawgtt Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2003
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    If the rockets don't cut anybody this off-season, can they use it next year or a couple years from now? Just wondering if anybody knew the answer to this question.
     
  10. Pat

    Pat Member

    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2002
    Messages:
    2,577
    Likes Received:
    658
    one time deal. this year only.
     
  11. francis 4 prez

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2001
    Messages:
    22,025
    Likes Received:
    4,552
    the rockets would've never used it for cato or taylor b/c they weren't in luxury tax territory and even if they had moved into it, it's unlikely they would wanna pay semi-productive players to play somewhere else.


    hedo turkoglu is a solid player and probably worth $6M/yr, or at least close to it. and he has 4 years remaining. the magic aren't going to pay him for the next 4 years, and take the cap hit, for a guy who is worth his contract.

    guys who get cut we'll either be by teams desperately in luxury tax territory (nyk or mavs) or be completely useless (spoon on our team would make sense) or already off the team (zo in toronto). you can't just cut productive players, and pay them, especially if you aren't that much into the LT zone. or at least i never would.
     
  12. Possum

    Possum Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2002
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    650
    Their all looking for money.
     
  13. macfan

    macfan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2005
    Messages:
    3,318
    Likes Received:
    1
    I am looking for money too
     
  14. gucci888

    gucci888 Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    17,227
    Likes Received:
    6,573
    I know this has been asked a million times: Does the new contract deduct the pay from the other team?
     
  15. VinceCarter

    VinceCarter Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 1999
    Messages:
    477
    Likes Received:
    0

    i think you are mistaken....this guys EGO is huge...getting a ring and bragging about it to people means a lot to guys like him.
     
  16. Possum

    Possum Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2002
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    650
    If he gets cut we'll see.
     
  17. micah1j

    micah1j Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    2,635
    Likes Received:
    61
    This is not allowed. The player has to be on the roster by June 21st.
     
  18. ArtV

    ArtV Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2002
    Messages:
    7,003
    Likes Received:
    1,713
    I think Vin Baker will be cut for LT reasons. Pickup a 2/3 to fill out the 15 man roster. Then wait for the trade deadline to see what Ward, Moochie, Wesley and Spoon will get you as a pg upgrade.
     
  19. SA Rocket

    SA Rocket Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2001
    Messages:
    1,064
    Likes Received:
    3
    The union lost in it's effort to allow complete double dipping by players. The final agreement provides for a percentage of the player's new team salary to be deducted from the amount his old team has to pay him. I don't know if it's accurate, but the only formula I've seen was something like:

    1.New team salary
    2.Minus vet's minimum
    3.Diivde that amount by 2
    4.The resulting amount is subtracted from his old team salary, reducing the obligation of his old team.

    Perhaps someone can confirm or shoot down this formula as inaccurate, but the fact that a player can't completely double dip makes it more likely that amnesty players would avoid teams that only have minimums available. Unless they truly are only about winning... :rolleyes:
     
    #19 SA Rocket, Aug 7, 2005
    Last edited: Aug 7, 2005
  20. WinkFan

    WinkFan Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2002
    Messages:
    3,987
    Likes Received:
    96

    I'd think this would make players less concerned about what their new team paid them. The difference between the LLE and MLE would only be about 1.6 million for one year. If you're already getting 15+ million like Finley, that's not so much.
     

Share This Page