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Arrogant Obama gets slapped down by Germany

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Jul 9, 2008.

  1. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Obama's foreign relations gaffes continue to pile up. This time he is rejected by Angela Merkel for wanting to pimp out the Brandenburger Tor for his own personal benefit. This is best explained as the naive, selfish move of a candidate who is simply in over his head. Kudos to Merkel for putting him in his place. Obama must think he is some kind of hot schit to be worthy of speaking at this great landmark, where so many truly world-changing speeches have taken place. His arrogance knows no boundaries.

    Merkel warns Obama not to use landmark for 'electioneering'

    Jul 9 10:13 AM US/Eastern

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel slammed a request by Barack Obama to give a speech this month before the Brandenburg Gate as "inappropriate", her deputy spokesman said Wednesday.
    The conservative leader said that while she would be pleased to meet the US Democratic presidential hopeful, it would be wrong for him to hold a "campaign rally" at the historic symbol of German unity.

    "It is unusual to do electioneering abroad," spokesman Thomas Steg told reporters.

    "It is unusual to hold election rallies abroad. No German candidate for high office would even think of using the National Mall (in Washington) or Red Square in Moscow for a rally because it would not be seen as appropriate."

    Authorities in the capital have confirmed that Obama plans to visit Berlin on July 24 and is interested in speaking at the foot of the Brandenburg Gate.

    The left-leaning government of the city-state, which has the sole right to approve such a request, has not yet made a formal decision but Mayor Klaus Wowereit gave his backing Tuesday.

    Steg said Merkel had "limited understanding" for such a request and found the Obama team's initiative "a bit odd". But he said it was up to candidates such as Obama to decide what was "in good taste".


    The gate, built in the late 18th century under Kaiser Friedrich Wilhelm II as a symbol of peace, became the country's most prominent symbol of German unification in 1990 after the fall of the Berlin Wall the year before.

    In an unusual move, a spokesman for Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier sharply contradicted Merkel's views at a regular government press conference, saying they could be interpreted in the United States as an affront to Obama.

    Foreign ministry spokesman Jens Ploetner said Steinmeier, a Social Democrat, was eager to meet Obama after speaking with him on the phone in April.

    Republican presidential contender John McCain should also be welcome to speak at the Brandenburg Gate if he chose to, he added.

    "The foreign minister does not find it odd," he said, adding that an Obama speech at or near the site would be "an expression of the vital German-American friendship" just days after Washington opened a new embassy next to the gate.

    Ploetner rejected media reports that German diplomats in the United States had actively courted Obama to speak at the Brandenburg Gate.


    But he said that German envoys had talked with his campaign about possible sites in Berlin he could visit such as the former Cold War border crossing at Checkpoint Charlie or the Holocaust Memorial.

    German officials have noted in recent days that only elected foreign leaders have been invited to hold speeches at the gate and not political candidates.

    These include the famous address at the landmark in 1987 by then US president Ronald Reagan, who called out to Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, "Tear down this wall!"

    Obama's staff said Saturday that he would visit France, Germany, Israel, Jordan and Britain to discuss "common challenges" with countries "critical to American national security". But it did not provide details of his programme.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080709141314.t3ju24gp&show_article=1
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    why don't you just call him an uppity negro
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    misleading title

    it should be

    Obama gets slapped down by conservative German Chancellor

    did you even read the whole article?

    everyone else is disagrees with the Chancellor.. even her own spokeswoman

    Thanks for pwning yourself again
     
  4. weslinder

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    Why the Sam Brown is Barack Obama having a rally in Germany? Where does he want to be President anyway?
     
  5. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Trader_J certainly deserves approbation for any number of things, but I don't think he deserved that particular slam here. Obama would have a privilege only granted to sitting US Presidents up until now. I'm surprised the campaign even asked. I guess it was worth a try.


    Impeach Bush/Cheney.
     
  6. mc mark

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    The same reason McCain is running ads in Israel right now I guess.
     
  7. mtbrays

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    And your opinion on John McCain's traveling to South America during a presidential campaign? Just as despicable in your eyes or completely acceptable?
     
  8. weslinder

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    Jesus Christ. This is insane. What a horrible waste of campaign money. Had I donated to either campaign, I would be livid. I'm pretty mad now with no money invested.
     
  9. weslinder

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    No, actually that was okay. He was trying to understand a little about foreign policy. He wasn't campaigning there.
     
  10. JumpMan

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    There are probably Americans in Germany and Israel and South America and everywhere else on Earth.
     
  11. mc mark

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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    i undertand the sentiment but tj has often referred to obama as arrogant and he often refers to his race, so no, i'm not giving him the benefit fo the doubt.
     
  13. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Playing the race card is many Obama supporters' first line of defense. Props to you for calling him out on that most unnecessary post.
     
  14. pgabriel

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    the title should be changed at least.
     
  15. weslinder

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    I just looked this up. McCain is running ads on the English version of the Jerusalem Post website. A lot of Americans read the Jerusalem Post, Drudge links their articles often, and there have even been articles linked on this site. He has made no secret about his strategy to pander to Jews for their vote, and that is consistent with that strategy. That is completely different than having a rally in Germany.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    why is it so upsetting? i know you said its a waste of campaign money but if there is one person who's managed presidential campaign funds as well as anyone in history of campaign managment its obama.
     
  17. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Like how he outspent Hillary in PA, OH, and IN by a margin of 3:1 and still got slaughtered? Very nice cash management skills on display...lol
     
  18. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    scoreboard LOL


    ---> :rolleyes:
     
  19. weslinder

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    The only thing that makes more angry than a Presidential candidate wanting to run our lives is a Presidential candidate that wants to run the world. Truman and Bush have been the worst about this, but every President since Roosevelt (except maybe Eisenhower) are more interested in playing Emperor than doing the job of President. This is representative of Obama wanting to be another emperor in the Truman-Bush mold. It's arrogant and dangerous.
     
  20. mtbrays

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    Funniest post in a while. Kudos.
     

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