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Army Targeted US Senators with PSYOPS

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  1. rocketsjudoka

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    This was reported in Rolling Stone. I am listing the MSN article as a summary and will put the link to the Rolling Stone article which is much longer.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41753749/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia

    Rolling stone link: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...ploys-psy-ops-on-u-s-senators-20110223?page=1

    Report: Army targeted U.S. senators with psyops
    General sought to manipulate VIPs in order to elicit more funding, troops, according to Rolling Stone article

    The U.S. army reportedly deployed a specialized "psychological operations" team to help convince American legislators to boost funding and troop numbers for the war in Afghanistan.

    Lt. Gen. William Caldwell, a three-star general in charge of training Afghan troops, ordered the operation, Rolling Stone Magazine reported in a story published late on Wednesday.

    An officer in charge of the unit objected when he was ordered to pressure the visiting senators and was harshly reprimanded by superiors, according to the magazine.

    "My job in psyops is to play with people's heads, to get the enemy to behave the way we want them to behave," the officer, Lt. Colonel Michael Holmes, told Rolling Stone.

    "I'm prohibited from doing that to our own people. When you ask me to try to use these skills on senators and congressman, you're crossing a line," he added.

    On the msnbc's "Morning Joe" program Wednesday, NBC News Senior Pentagon Correspondent Jim Miklaszewski reported that officials both in Washington and Afghanistan were "scrambling" to come up with a response to the allegations.

    Miklaszewski also pointed out that using such tactics on U.S. citizens is against regulations and not to be done under any circumstances.

    Among those targeted were senators John McCain, Joe Lieberman, Jack Reed, Al Franken and Carl Levin, as well as Representative Steve Israel of the House Appropriations Committee, the report said. The team also allegedly targeted Admiral Mike Mullen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    'Very serious and disturbing'
    One of the lawmakers, Sen. Reed, told msnbc's Chris Jansing that he found the accusations "very serious and disturbing" and said the Pentagon should investigate, and if warranted, punish those involved.

    The Rhode Island Democrat, who is a senior member of the Senate Armed Services Committee and a former U.S. Army Ranger, said he's been to Afghanistan 11 times and has tried to get a "broad view" of the situation on the ground by seeking out many different sources.

    He said never detected anything unusual when speaking to military personnel, but stressed that he weighs carefully what everyone has told him and doesn't put too much stock into any one individual.

    According to Holmes, he and his four-man team arrived in Afghanistan at the end of 2009 in order to determine the effects of American propaganda on Afghans and the Taliban, the magazine reported.

    Soon, though, Caldwell ordered the unit to gather profiles of visiting dignitaries, including their likes and dislikes and "hot-button issues," the magazine reported.

    Holmes was asked how the general could secretly manipulate the lawmakers, Rolling Stone said.

    "How do we get these guys to give us more people?" Caldwell asked, according to the magazine. "What do I have to plant inside their heads?"

    U.S. law bars the military from using psyops on Americans, and every defense authorization bill explicitly prohibits the manipulation, the magazine reported.

    "Everyone in the psyops, intel ... knows you're not supposed to target Americans," a veteran member of similar team told Rolling Stone. "It's what you learn on day one."
     
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    This country and others have long used disinformation and information operations as a tool for these very purposes. It makes anyone knowledgeable about them skeptical of any intel that is not firsthand.

    Somehow, this revelation isn't surprising. Just a shame.
     
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    Why does a bipartisan group of US Senators hate America?
     
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    The funniest part of this is that they targeted McCain, Levin and LIEBERMAN.

    Those are among 3 of the biggest hawks and pro-Israel guys in the Senate and they pick those 3 to conduct psy-ops on for this?

    That's like trying to plant cocaine on Charlie Sheen.

    The most depressing part of this isn't that the Army would be breaking their oaths and American law but that they're so incompetent at their jobs that they think they need to use mind tricks on Lieberman to convince him of a position that's basically the cornerstone of his political philosophy.

    No wonder "hearts and minds" isn't working in the Middle East if this is the level of their work over there.
     

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