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Army and Tillman's Death[WP/MSNBC]

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by FranchiseBlade, Dec 6, 2004.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    I feel really awful for Tillman's family. I think they deserved the whole truth, I hope they get it. This can't help the process of getting back to a more normal routine and moving along in the greiving process.

     
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    If it's true, I am speechless.

    I first watched the news last night & thought it was another smoking gun. but seems more stuff is coming out.

    America's young & best are dying for this ?!

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  3. Oski2005

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    Accidents happen in war. Obviously this one was preventable though and the real shame is the way the military covered it up. Hopefully, the full truth will come out and justice will be served.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    That's what really bothers me. We all know that accidents happen in war. The cover up is what makes it so disgusting. They should have told Tillman's family the whole truth, and then given them time to deal. Now this kind of thing can keep dragging on with another piece of info being dumped on them etc. It is better for them to have all the information and then begin the process of dealing with it.
     
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    How come all I've ever heard about Tillman's death was that it was friendly fire?
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    That was my initial reaction too, but after reading the whole article, what the army did goes beyond that. Also I think there are differences between official releases and other reports.
     
  7. Oski2005

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    That wasn't the first report.
     
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    i thought they had reported it as being a result of friendly fire within the month after it happened? what cover-up was there?

    its horrible, but this happens in all wars. the soldiers are trying their best, but occasionally mistakes will be made...

    i dont think that the public needed to know the full details of what happened. while the media might report on deaths from friendly fire, i dont think they usually publish the details. the only reason we got this story was b/c of who he was, and tillman was trying to shun away from the attention when he joined in the first place.

    the details on how he died should be only for the military and the guy's family if they request it. just say friendly fire and leave it at that...all this press/providing the details will only be bad PR for the army and the troops that are over there now.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    I don't think the problem is friendly fire. The problem is that initially the army didn't report it as friendly fire when they knew it was.

    Secondly the army used his death as PR. They mislead the public on Tillman's role in the situation by making it seem as if he was in charge of a lot of soldiers when he was only in charge of himself and one other ranger.

    Perhaps worst of all is that army didn't publish anything about the mistakes, and incompetence involved in the shooting. They didn't report about communication breakdowns and mistakes made that resulted in the friendly fire.

    I think everyone understands friendly fire casualties will happen. I don't recall anyone being upset when it was revealed that friendly fire was the cause of his death. But I am upset at the cover up.

    Those
     
  10. Hippieloser

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    This shouldn't really have any effect on Tillman's memory. He lived and died as a soldier, the way he insisted.

    But an apparent coverup is just... sad. Could the American people not handle the truth? Were officials really so worried about the effect this minor football star's death would have on the war effort or people's opinion on the war and the Army? I'm tired of being given so little credit by the goverment.
     

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