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Arianna on Hillary

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 13, 2007.

  1. basso

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/team-hillarys-latest-exc_b_41155.html

    [rquoter]Team Hillary's Latest Excuse for Iraq Vote: 9/11 Made Her Do It!

    Team Hillary's attempt to out-weasel John Kerry's legendary "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" continues in earnest.

    Its latest explanation/rationalization? 9/11 made her do it! That's right, the Clinton camp is now reading out of the Bush administration's wing-and-a-prayer book.

    There was James Carville on CNN's Situation Room, desperately trying to explain why Sen.
    Clinton voted for the war, even though other senators who had been given the same faulty intel she had, voted against it: "But they weren't from New York," he said. "Their state wasn't hit. They didn't have to deal with the grief of these 3,000 people."

    As if the war in Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.

    And it's not just Carville dishing out this nonsense. In an interview last month, Hillary herself offered the same excuse, telling the AP: "As a senator from New York, I lived through 9/11 and am still dealing with the aftereffects." Call it PTJS (Post Traumatic Justification Syndrome).

    Yesterday's New York Times reported that "Mrs. Clinton's advisers do not relish the idea of someone bringing up her 2002 Senate vote [on Iraq] at every campaign stop."

    Then they better come up with a better answer than the drivel they are asking voters to buy. As AMERICAblog's John Aravosis put it, in response to Hillary: "Invoking September 11 when asked about Iraq is unconscionable. It is pure Dick Cheney, and an outright lie. It is not what a Democrat says, and hell, it isn't even what a sane moderate Republican says."[/rquoter]
     
  2. mc mark

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    Arianna's has been dogging Hillary for a while now. But sh'e got a point.
     
  3. basso

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    "As a senator from New York, I lived through 9/11 and am still dealing with the aftereffects."

    i wasn't aware hill was in NYC on 9/11.
     
  4. Dairy Ashford

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    Why would she have to be? The President wasn't in Washington or New York on 9/11, either, but he's probably made similar statements at $100-a-plate chicken dinners. She probably had staffers, neighbors and social and political contacts who were killed or affected by the attacks.
     
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    Yes she does...and it's reason #1 why I am reluctant to support her.
     
  6. gifford1967

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    This is the core problem with Hillary (and Bill). Too much calculation, not enough conviction. Hillary took a gamble when she voted for the Iraq authorization and then when she didn't acknowledge her mistake. She lost.

    She's at the bottom of my list for Democratic nominee, but that said, she would still be a thousand times better president than Bush and I'd rather see her as president than any of the Republicans running.
     
  7. Faos

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    She scares me.

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  8. rhester

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    She is the worst candidate of a group emerging that has no business being president of this nation.

    We need a president that will attempt to lead America to fiscal sanity, constitutional protections, and moral soundness. Someone who will stand up to the Federal Reserve, the Industrial and Media moguls and the rest of the elites that have hijacked our Republic.

    So far not one candidate who is declared is willing to step up and do this.
     
  9. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Unfortuntely Lex Luthor isn't running.
     
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    I heard Bruce Wayne is still mulling it over, though.
     
  11. rhester

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    I was thinking more of say, Bum Phillips, but he's too old-

    or

    Willie Nelson, but he's not interested-

    or

    Just waiting to see if American Idol comes up with anything?

    Actually any of these candidates we have would be better on Survivor Island than trying to straighten out the mess they made.

    Can Keifer Sutherland run as Jack Bauer?

    We could run Bauer vs. Captain Jack Sparrow and see who gets the Evangelical Right Wing Vote?
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Bauer in a landslide, Sparrow looks kinda gay with the eyeliner and all.
     
  13. rhester

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    Awesome :D

    Bauer could settle things in Iraq in 24 hrs. :cool:
     
  14. Sishir Chang

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    Unfortunately Captain Sparrow doesn't meet Constitutional requirements having not been born in US territory or territory that would become the US. Also if he ran he would get taken down by the group Privateer Boat Veterens for the Truth.

    Jack Bauer isn't totally safe though as recently on Right Wing blog realpatriottorturers.com he is being accused of having saved Los Angelos in 26 hours not the 24 hours he claims to have.
     
  15. Achilleus

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    Kiefer Sutherland is Canadian and he was born in England.
     
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    Not to mention that Jack Sparrow is some kind of undead ghost guy, which would make it difficult for some in the Republican Party to accept.

    Still, he could probably overcome this by pointing out that he was a pirate and thus truly reflects current conservative values.
     
  17. rhester

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    Vote For Pedro! :D
     
  18. Air Langhi

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    Every year people say every candidate sucks. A few years ago everyone loved Powell was considered a great candidate, but now has the stigma of lying. Even a president like Regan who some people considered great screwed the nations economy over. There are just too many people to please which just can't happen.
     
  19. rhester

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    Doing what is right and pleasing people is an oxymoron

    Just give me one candidate that understands and opposes over 10 trillion $$$ of debt to private bankers and I will consider that progress in politics.

    As long as politicians are borrowing money that you and I owe to private central bankers we will continue to lose our freedoms and our nation.
     

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