1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Are you a good father? It's all in the face!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by wnes, May 10, 2006.

  1. wnes

    wnes Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2003
    Messages:
    8,196
    Likes Received:
    19
    LOL ... is it really a science?

    http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/story/0,20281,19092596-5001022,00.html

    All in the face

    By JULIE WHELDON

    May 11, 2006

    WOMEN can work out if a man will make a good father just by looking at his face, new research reveals.

    Even studying a photograph gives them subconscious clues that he likes children and is therefore a good long-term partner.

    Scientists behind the discovery believe it adds an important dimension to knowledge about mate selection among humans.

    They say women judge a man on his genetic quality as well as his willingness to be a good parent for her offspring.

    And their studies show keen ladies use masculine features as a guide to genetic quality.

    When at their most fertile, they are especially attracted to men with features such as strong jaws.

    But at other times of the month women prefer more feminine faces – as softer features suggest a man will be a good long-term partner and help care for any children.

    Researchers at St Andrew's University have even come up with the face of the perfect man, whose softer, more feminine features reflected a more nurturing side.

    They concluded that the ideal partner should have a symmetrical face, large deep and expressive eyes, a straight nose and soft jaw.

    A team from the University of California, Santa Barbara, took it a step further – and analysed how accurate women were at reading a man's face for clues to testosterone levels and interest in children.

    First they took 39 men aged 18 to 33 and tested their hormone levels.

    The men were shown pairs of adult and infant faces and had to say which they found most appealing. This was designed to show whether they had a natural liking for children.

    A group of 29 women aged around 18 were then given snaps of the men and asked to rate them.

    They were told to point out if they thought each male liked children, was masculine, physically attractive or kind.

    They also rated how attractive they would be as a short-term partner and a long-term mate.

    The study, published today in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, showed women were able to spot which men liked babies.

    Those who women considered would be good with older children also scored highly on the baby affinity test.

    Likewise they pointed out which men had the highest testosterone levels, as they tended to rate them as more masculine.

    As expected, they found the masculine faces more attractive as short-term mates.

    Intriguingly, even though all the men were asked to make a neutral expression for the photos, women thought those who liked children looked happier than those who did not seem interested.

    Northumbria University evolutionary psychologist Dr Nick Neave said: "It seems that women can tell an awful lot from a man's face.

    "The paper is a step forward in our understanding – but it does not go all the way to answering questions about just what makes someone a good parent or perfect partner."
     
  2. meggoleggo

    meggoleggo Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2003
    Messages:
    4,402
    Likes Received:
    48
    Is this really news? I learned all this attraction business about 2 years ago in my Human Biology course. Maybe the news is that women are right about their attractions to men.

    BTW, I'm the world's best dad. Sorry guys. :D
     
  3. swilkins

    swilkins Member

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2003
    Messages:
    7,115
    Likes Received:
    11
    Inconceivable!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  4. macalu

    macalu Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    836
    i don't know what's sadder, the actual research or the fact that people actually get paid to do this research.
     
  5. Faos

    Faos Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2003
    Messages:
    15,370
    Likes Received:
    53
  6. ima_drummer2k

    ima_drummer2k Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2002
    Messages:
    36,412
    Likes Received:
    9,354
    Am I a good Father?!? ARE you?



    [​IMG]
     
  7. LonghornFan

    LonghornFan Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,718
    Likes Received:
    2,628
  8. thegary

    thegary Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    11,006
    Likes Received:
    3,128
  9. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    seriously. wow.
     
  10. macalu

    macalu Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    836
    i'm not a star wars fan but this made me chuckle.
     
  11. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    I disagree. I find anthropology/biology to be neato.
     
  12. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,782
    Likes Received:
    3,703

    classic jim rome
     
  13. A-Train

    A-Train Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2000
    Messages:
    15,997
    Likes Received:
    39
    Come on, Anakin was a good father! How many fathers offer thier sons a chance to rule the galaxy with them? It was those assholes Yoda and Obi-Wan that sent Luke and Leia off to live elsewhere, so he really didn't even get a chance to prove his parenting skills...
     
  14. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    the suggestion that you can look at someone's face and determine what their heart for children is like is absolutely ridiculous. borderline offensive.
     
  15. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,782
    Likes Received:
    3,703
    [​IMG]

    antwan peek
     
  16. macalu

    macalu Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    16,942
    Likes Received:
    836
    for the sake of argument, let's say there is some validity to this research. well, what's the point of it? you've just wasted a bunch of money to tell people what they already do subconsciously and in no way does it help humanity.

    but i do agree that anthropology/biology can be interesting.
     
  17. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    not to mention the subjectiveness of which face is more masculine or not.
     
  18. MR. MEOWGI

    MR. MEOWGI Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    14,382
    Likes Received:
    13
    It's not really that. It's a subconscious physical attraction that goes way back in our species. It's not a determination. We are somewhat controlled by forces that we are not even remotely aware of. Why do we have a desire to kiss (edit: not each other)? It's all biology.
     
  19. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,055
    Likes Received:
    15,229
    I suppose the assumption here is the more testosterone you have, the less you like children? That seems a little too simplistic to be true.

    I wonder if they controlled for fatherhood. If I were included in this study, I bet I would rank very differently on the affinity-for-babies scale now than I would have 2 years ago. Having a baby myself now, I have much much more interest in other children than I used too when I was childless.
     
  20. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2002
    Messages:
    43,782
    Likes Received:
    3,703
    well meowgi is famous for not being a parent. lets see a pick. :)
     

Share This Page