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Are We REALLY a Better Team This Year Talent Wise?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hotballa, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    Lets step back a bit and take a good decent look at the new guys (coach not included) and the role that they're playing in right now, and really ask ourselves

    "are we that much better than last year?"

    The hoopla that we received during the offseason was due to the acquisition of Scola, James, and Franchise. And for that, we had John Hollinger of ESPN proclaiming us to win the championship, and countless others who picked us to finish no worse than #3 in the West.

    I'm going to list the 3 main acquisitions and what role they've taken over from last year (if applicable) and try to do a comparison.

    Scola for JHo
    Now Scola is an unfinished product and I really don't know what we can get from him at this point. What I do know is that he hustles and plays real hard nosed D, but that he can't hit an open jumper for whatever reason. Perhaps it's psychological and just nerves, so I'm not going to kill him too much on this. Ask yourself this though, if Yao goes down (knock on wood), do you think Scola can give us what JHo gave us last year in terms of production? I think it's possible, I'm very high on him, but the fact is that you just don't know. Maybe he figures it out by year end but it might be too late by then.

    With JHo, you know you can get a guy who will be a somewhat reliable low post option, and showed us last year that he was pretty solid with that 15 foot jumper. For me, I tip the scales in favor of Juwan for this one. Scola is the better long term option, but for this year I think JHo would probably make the bigger impact.


    Mike James for Luther Head
    I like what I see from James in terms of ball handling, he's light years ahead of Head on this. However, he was expected to be a scorer and a guy who could nail open shots, which he has failed miserably so far. History shows that he's a better shooter than what he's shown so far, but perhaps he just might not fit in this type of offense.

    his best shots are going to be spot up ones from double teams of yao or TMac, yet I've seen him fail to capitalize when the ball comes to him. He seems to be more comfortable when in motion and creating his own shot a la Stevie, which while very useful, doesn't seem to mesh too well with the motion offense that Adelman seems to be trying to implement.

    Head on the other hand (least year's version mind you) shot lights out in this role. You knew that Luther was gonna nail a couple of big open 3s every game. However his propensity for making boneheaded mistakes clouded even his stellar shooting last year. I used to say that James didn't make any dumb mistakes but his shot selection is as bad as a turnover sometimes.

    I give this a slight edge to Luther since James shot selection = Luther's boneheaded turnovers (last year), but Luther's points came from good shooting and shot selection, while Mike's seems to come from volume so far.

    Francis
    Nothing to say. He's this year's version of Bonzi.


    Conclusion: If we kept the same team from last year, I think we'd probably have a 6-3 record if not better. We'd still have the problem of no ball handler behind Rafer but quite honestly, that's really not even close to our biggest problem right now.
     
  2. dookiester

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    we're better. the players who shot well/decently last year are now shooting decently/horribly. if the shooting comes around we'll be rolling.
     
  3. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Bonzi is better than any backup perimeter player we had last year and SF is better than Rafer except he doesn't get to play.
     
  4. durvasa

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    There's no way the role players are going to continue to shoot this badly. The talent is far better; everyone just happens to be slumping at the same time right now.

    Even Bonzi Wells is only shooting 39% with a 43 TS%.
     
  5. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    Yes that's true Bonzi is better, but the thing is our high expectations were based on the acquisitions of the three guys I covered and thus far they've not panned out.
     
  6. rofflesaurus

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    Bonzi actually playing automatically makes this team more talented than last year. James IS an upgrade over Rafer, even if he is shooting horribly. Scola is better than JHo hands down, offensively and especially defensively, and he's still adjusting to the NBA.

    Right now the biggest upgrade we have is Bonzi Wells. He's our 3rd best player. Scola and James are slight upgrades over last year's positions. We still lack some talent though, and I don't think we can win a championship unless we get another piece. (same story every year)
     
  7. Old Man Rock

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    There is no question about the 3 new aquisitions are not contributing as well as the players they replaced. And Rafer is playing worst :eek: than last year. But you got to believe they will come around and we will get better.
     
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    Adding Scola, James, Wells, Francis to the team should be addition, naturally.


    We'll pull it together, we're only 10 games into the season. Dallas hasn't looked great so far, and the Suns lost to Atlanta and got crushed at home by the Lakers, and barely beat Seattle, Miami, and New York.


    Of all the Western teams, S.A. is the only who has really looked unbelivable so far, everyone is sort.......blah.......slowly bringing it together.
     
  9. rofflesaurus

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    that's not true. i think they are playing up to expectations. james is pretty much playing like he was when he was with us two years ago, scola is playing fine, and bonzi is finally showing his game. the problem is on the people who expected scola to be our third best scorer and to be an impact player.
     
  10. hotballa

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    I disagree with this because Rafer is still here and occupying the same role he had last year. James is actually playing Luther's role from last year while Luther's been relegated to pretty much JL3.

    What I've seen from Scola so far doesn't impress me offensively. Juwan last year was drawing double teams at certain points in the game. I don't see anything from Scola that suggests this will happen anytime THIS year.
     
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    Not really. I always count Bonzi as this year's new acquisitions. I believe a lot of others do.

    I never was too high on SF3. I still belive in Scola.

    Mike James is the only reason I watch the Rockets. Stop bashing him :D
     
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    we have more talent, its just not playing (Brooks, Francis). Francis can actually score, and brooks can shoot. we need both of those.
     
  13. BackNthDay

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    I'm beginning to think Rudy Gay for Shane wasn't a good trade.
     
  14. Bandwagoner

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    Net = Gain- loss

    Loss = VSPAN & JHo

    Gain = Bonzi, Francis, Scola, James


    Yes we are better talent. Our coaching has taken a step back.
     
  15. AXG

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    We're much better on paper, but overall this is still the same team as last year. Look at the starting lineup, it's the same as last season. The team still lacks a good third option. Bonzi has played well, but he's taking on an extended role because of TMac's injury. Stevie hasn't even shed his warmups yet and no one else can make a basket not named Yao or Tracy.
     
  16. OddsOn

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    ......on paper! :cool:

    (whatever that means.... :confused: )
     
  17. SWTsig

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    spot on.
     
  18. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    exactly.
     
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    I really can't wait to kick other teams' asses!!!!!!
     
  20. apocclass

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    sadly, i have to agree. our problems last year seem to have been a weak bench, PG, PF, and lack of athletic ability.

    with james and wells id say our bench is improved, but the other holes still existand we must find a way to plug them. i truly believe having francis and james as our PGs, instead of james and alston will help to fill the PG and give us another athlete out there.

    something must be done or this season will mirror last seasons to a tee.

    win 50+ games.. utah in the first round again where yao is rendered useless, and another first round exit.
     

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