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Are we depreciating our own "Assets"

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketMania1991, Jan 19, 2011.

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Are we depreciating our own "Assets"

Poll closed Jan 29, 2011.
  1. Yes

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    28.8%
  2. No

    49 vote(s)
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  3. Who Knows?

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  1. RocketMania1991

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    Just what the title says.

    With all the depth we have it seems as if we are depreciating our assets and possibly hurting ourselves for future trades.

    Some players in particular come to mind regarding this.

    Terrance Williams-Very talented,has the potential to be a borderline All-Star player if given the time. Currently he has been riding the pine showing nothing positive.

    Patrick Patterson-Only 21 years old still and has already shown flashes of greatness for a young player. Sadly he is slotted behind a 30 year old PF who just got a new contract.

    Chase Budinger-Yep just like Patterson sitting behind an aging player. Hopefully if he is still on the roster by next year he can take over the reigns from Battier.

    Ish Smith- Young PG, now in the D-League due to our depth ;/.

    I seriously hope we pull off at least some sort of trade at the deadline to clear up some room for these players.

    By all this young talent being on the bench we are not seeing what they potentially could be and develop into and what skills they actually possess.

    Its frustrating because some of these young players if traded might go on to other teams and light it up simply because we were to deep and never got to see how good they really were, thus we might regret letting them go in the future.

    Plus these players could hold much more value if they could prove they were legit with more minutes.
     
  2. mosessmalone

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    I don't think our young "talent" is all that talented
     
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  3. Marsarinian

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    1. If you play all the younglings and not the vets, aren't you depreciating the value of the vets? You can say everything about potential for young players, but a lot of vets are evaluated by numbers... It would lead to all kinds of speculation about rotations and create a bad atmosphere in the locker room, where not the best players get to play... Basketball is basketball, management is management.

    2. Losing depreciates everybody's value. Winning, on the other hand, makes players more desired as well.
     
  4. fallenphoenix

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    if anything morey overvalues our assets to get the most for them. just look at last year's big trade and what little we gave up relative to what we received.
     
  5. RocketMania1991

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    With the vets you know what player you are getting for the most part. Our starters are all known commodities. One of them isn't going to suddenly develop into a top 5 player in the league.

    Where as with our young players we don't really know their ceilings or full potential.

    But I understand what you are stating.
     
  6. W22_STREAK

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    see chase budinger last year

    and now look at chase budinger this year

    lo
     
  7. RocketMania1991

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    Yes, but I don't think you can really gauge a player when he isn't getting consistent playing time. Such is the case on our team.

    This team just really needs to figure out where it is going. Either ship these young players out or let them play.
     
  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Those guys aren't the ones they're trying to trade.
     
  9. RocketMania1991

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    I don't think that's necessarily true, we as fans don't know who is being discussed in trade matters and who isn't.

    They are all young players with obvious upside and are surely desired by at least some teams.
     
  10. avb

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    Our 'assets' aren't worth much if other GM's aren't asking for them.
     
  11. meh

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    Ish Smith is depth so we can trade Lowry or Brooks without severely destroy our PG rotation.

    Terrance Williams is like next year's draft pick. He's non-existent for now, although could be used as insurance if we trade Shane or Bud.

    Patterson/Hill/Scola cannot coexist long term. Out of the 3, Patterson likely has the most value to Morey. So Patterson likely stays if Morey has his way, but there's no reason not to trade him if it lands us a star player.

    The "extra" depth is there so that if we do make a trade, that depth could be used to replace the hole in the rotation. That said, if we don't make any trades, then they will be useless for this year at least.
     
  12. DaDakota

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    The depth was to withstand injuries this season, unfortunatly, we lost the one guy we had no depth behind in Yao Ming.....so the depth is now sort of worthless.

    DD
     
  13. mrjuandiego1988

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    well our young talent seems to be better than some or most of the teams with young talent!
     
  14. Rip Van Rocket

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    Or we ask them to do more than they are prepared for at this point, they perform poorly, and their value plummets. You seem to assume that all our young players are going to perform at a high level if we suddenly give them a lot of minutes. We as fans, do not see what goes on in practice. However, the coaches do see what goes on in practice. I too enjoy seeing the young guys get meaningful minutes during games, but I trust Adelman in deciding who should play. Also, with the exception of Williams, I think we are getting to see what the young guys can do.
     
  15. JuanValdez

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    Seconded. Unless they get Anthony, I expect veterans to be traded away, not the guys on the rookie contracts.
     
  16. entirelydave

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    Why do I keep hearing this from people?!

    How do you know this? :confused:
     
  17. delta69er

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    Aren't we trying to give PP less pt since we want him to stay under the radar? He played really good in the time he's been given on the court, and we don't want any teams demanding him in a potential blockbuster trade
     
  18. thetatomatis

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    Yes, but in the case of Patterson he is playing behind a 30 year old Scola. Who is a borderline allstar. 19 and 9 PF. No rookie would supplant Scola short of Blake Griffen. Even then Adelman would probably be playing Scola more than Blake Griffen because you as another team know that Adelman eases his rookies into the rotation and its not about talent with Adelman. Its about teaching over a long period of time before they get playing time. So if the other team and their scouts dont know that about the Rockets and Adelman? They are horrible scouts and GMS for other teams.
     
  19. RocketMania1991

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    Look at his stat lines toward the end of the last season with the Nets. He was playing pretty well.

    He is also a lottery talent and has been compared to the likes of Andre Iguodala.

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Terrence-Williams-507/
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    Well, if we know he's so great, then don't the GMs of other teams know this as well? As much information as we may have and as much attention as we may pay, the GMs know more and pay more attention.
     

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