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[AP]Circumcision reduces HIV risk by up to 60 percent

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  1. Aceshigh7

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    Remember the other circumcision thread where a couple of posters were very vehemently opposed to it and claiming that it offered no health benefits? Now there is definitive proof it does.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070223/ap_on_he_me/aids_circumcision;_ylt=AsGwdkTsT2QDNFHklnzxFVHMWM0F

    LONDON - Scientists say conclusive data shows there is no question circumcision reduces men's chances of catching
    HIV by up to 60 percent — a finding experts are hailing as a major breakthrough in the fight against
    AIDS. Now, the question is how to put that fact to work to combat AIDS across Africa.

    The findings first were announced in December, when initial results from two major trials — in Kenya and Uganda — showed promising links between circumcision and HIV transmission. However, those trials were deemed so definitive that the tests were halted early.

    The full data from the trials, carried out by the United States'
    National Institutes of Health, were published Friday in The Lancet.

    "This is an extraordinary development," said Dr. Kevin de ****, director of the
    World Health Organization's AIDS department. "Circumcision is the most potent intervention in HIV prevention that has been described."

    Circumcision has long been suspected of reducing men's susceptibility to HIV infection because the cells in the foreskin of the penis are especially vulnerable to the virus.

    A modeling study done last year projected that in the next decade, male circumcision could prevent 2 million AIDS infections and 300,000 deaths. Last year, 2.8 million people in sub-Saharan Africa became infected with HIV, and 2.1 million people died.

    Experts say the breakthrough is a significant one on par with the identification of the virus and the use of lifesaving combination drug therapy.

    The two U.S. studies confirm similar results from an earlier trial in South Africa. Given the recent failure of a microbicide trial in Africa and India, and the ongoing difficulties in developing an AIDS vaccine, the potential of circumcision as a new weapon against HIV has become even more significant.

    But they caution solid evidence is not justification for mass circumcisions.

    African health systems are already overburdened. Circumcision requires much more planning than, for example, an immunization campaign.

    "It's a tricky one, but it's something we're going to have to move on," said Dr. Catherine Hankins, a scientific adviser at
    UNAIDS.

    "Male circumcision is such a sensitive religious and cultural issue that we need to be careful," she said.

    Several African countries have already met with U.N. agencies to explore new strategies for increasing circumcision services. Swaziland, for instance, recently experimented with a series of "Circumcision Saturdays," where existing health care facilities, normally closed on weekends, were opened by local doctors to circumcise approximately 40 men a day on certain Saturdays.

    Providing circumcisions across Africa would not be the first time surgical procedures have been adopted by public health campaigns.

    "Cataract surgeries have been carried out extremely efficiently to prevent blindness worldwide," said Dr. Richard Hayes, an AIDS expert at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. In some places, the cataract surgeries are performed by trained paramedics.

    In recent years, the fight against the AIDS pandemic has focused on the provision of lifesaving drugs. The circumcision data gives prevention, rather than treatment, renewed emphasis.

    "Treating people with antiretrovirals is completely unsustainable unless we can turn off the tap of infection," said Hayes.

    While circumcision may offer new hope, it is not a cure for the epidemic.

    "This is an additional tool, and it must not replace other interventions," said de ****, who added that there will be no push for universal circumcision. "There is no one size fits all solution for AIDS."

    Together with the
    United Nations AIDS agency, WHO is convening a meeting in Switzerland in early March to evaluate the circumcision data, and to decide on the next steps in slowing the AIDS pandemic.

    In the Kenyan study, 1,391 circumcised men were compared to 1,393 who were not. And in Uganda, 2,474 circumcised men were compared to 2,522 men who were not. After tracking the men for two years, scientists found that circumcised men were 51 to 60 percent less likely to contract HIV than their uncircumcised counterparts. Since the studies were stopped, all the men have been offered the opportunity to be circumcised. And all the men were warned not to lapse into sexually risky behavior, such as abandoning condom use.

    Scientists theorize that women would benefit indirectly from lower HIV prevalence in men, and a study is currently ongoing in Uganda to determine this.

    In areas where HIV is spread primarily through heterosexual sex, such as sub-Saharan Africa, male circumcision could theoretically slash the infection rate in half.

    It is unknown whether circumcision would be equally effective in concentrated AIDS epidemics, as in Asia and eastern Europe, where AIDS primarily strikes gay men and drug users.
     
  2. Uprising

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    Sweet. oops TMI i guess. :p
     
  3. tigermission1

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    Jews and Muslims have known that for centuries. ;)
     
  4. moestavern19

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    Hayjon probably doesn't get laid anyway. :p
     
  5. Mr. Brightside

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    Circumcision is not natural and thus should not be done. If anything let the child choose when he is old enough.
     
  6. Wangdoodle

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    In fact, children shouldn't be inoculated either. That's not natural either...

    ...

    .. right?
     
  7. VicVictory

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    Have yall ever seen an actual circumcision of a baby? They show it in Season 3 of 'Penn & Tellers Bull$h!t'. That stuff is child abuse! :eek: The baby is crying and screaming and entire time. Not cool at all.
     
  8. RocketFan007

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    Babies scream and cry all the time, what's your point?
     
  9. Smokey

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    I didn't know what circumcision meant until I saw a porno where the dude was uncircumcised.
     
  10. krnxsnoopy

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    but u dont remember it right?
     
  11. YallMean

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    Good, I made a right decision for my baby boy. :D
     
  12. moestavern19

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    all those jewish boys at 8 days old having to deal with a guy who looks like he's from ZZ top snipping off a tip of their weiners. No wonder they all grow up and have irrational fears.
     
  13. whag00

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    Saving yourself for marriage and being in a monogamous relationship reduces your risk by 100%.
     
  14. MR. MEOWGI

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    I am circumcised but I have an identical twin who is uncircumcised.
     
  15. moestavern19

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    The more you know...
     
  16. YallMean

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    Aint that bad. My son was born last week, and had him circumcised the next day. Within 24 hours of birth, baby is still in sleep mode, and that's the best time to do it.
    It's much worse, pain sufferring wise, to have it done after grown up.
    With right cleansing, and plenty vasiline, he is fine already.
     
  17. moestavern19

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    Is his nickname by any chance "Pouchy"
     
  18. Wangdoodle

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    Exactly. My wife and I had to hold down our daughter who was flailing and screaming bloody murder while she was at the doctor's office getting a shot. When you're a parent, it's just part of the job.

    My boy was circumcised in the hospital by a doctor when he was 24 hours old. He won't remember the delivery and he won't remember the circumcision.
     
  19. moestavern19

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    I'm trying to recall from my Christian upbringing, but I believe the first circumcision was peformed by Abraham when he was 90 years old... on himself. Then he commanded all the dudes under his command to do the same. Hmmm.

    I wonder what that conversation went like.


    "Lamech, I'm gonna need you to go water the sheep, and oh by the way take this knife... uh... and well... cut the foreskin off your ding-a-ling, its sort of a Me-God thing, so you know, no questions asked, 'chop chop' heh heh heh"
     
  20. robbie380

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    Dr. de **** talking about the ****.
     

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