I checked the major threads, and I didn't see this up on the board. From what Andre Johnson seems to say in the article, this bodes well for Matt Schaub and explains a lot about David Carr's initial struggle with the Texans. http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007...snt-want-to-dump-david-carr-in-the-grease-doe In addition, here is the source article link from Texans.com, with Andre Johnson's quotes displayed within the context of the article. http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=3388 This is very interesting commentary from Andre Johnson. What is your take on this? Discuss.
the proof will be in the pudding, but i've got to say that I'm more excited about this season than I have been since the oilers were in the Moon era. I think Kubiak got it right with Schaub.
Hopefully Andre is right...unfortunately you have to be VERY cautiously optomistic with this team so I'll just have to wait and see. But I think Andre was speaking the truth when he said Carr decided where he was going to throw to before the snap...I don't think I have ever seen a NFL QB (or any QB) throw in the quadruple coverage before.
There's no shot at Carr that I see. It's merely fact. It was rare that a WR was able to catch the ball on the move with Carr because he was looking for a spot. It's beyond reason that anyone from that staff has a job in professional football. They were possibly the worst coached team in history. I ahve no doubt that if Carr was under Kubiak from the begining, the story would be a lot different. Instead he was coddled and surrounded by mostly inferior talent. I think the move to get Schaub was absolutely correct because Carr may just be too far gone. If he can spend a year as a backup and see what an NFL QB actually does, maybe he's starting for the Panthers next season and still has a chance to be successful.
Carr's scouting report was that he held onto the ball too long. So you can blame the coaches for not fixing it or Carr for not getting over his flaws. Schaub will be better in that respect, but he has a much weaker arm. He even said he's glad they got Ahman because he'll be dumping it off to him if he gets in trouble, because he won't be able to just sling it downfield.
That's not a shot at Carr, he's just telling it like it is. And even if it was, David deserves it after the shots he has thrown at Houston now that he is with his new team. Anyway, I don't feel like getting riled up over that right now. It's a new day in HOU, the dark cloud over this city has been removed... I'm just excited about next yr, Matt Schaub is def an upgrade for this system, and I'm looking forward to our first winning season. Of course I'm optimistically biased.
This doesn't necessarily make me feel better about Schaub (not that I feel like he is a big flop or anything), it just makes me feel better about the decision to move on from Carr. It sort of confirms what I saw with my own eyes.
exactly. it seems the key of what's being communicated here is that there were problems with Carr (the cause of those were ultimately irrelevant) and it was time to move on. BUT...i've heard so many good things about Schaub from people all around the league that i'm optimistic on that front.
as i've often maintained, carr was abused by the previous regime. i continue to feel for the guy from a football standpoint: he never had a prayer, here. i'm still stunned it was THAT bad.
It's really pretty amazing if you think about it. No way that staff lasts 4 years anywhere else. It was almost a perfect storm of stupidity. McNair, Casserly, Capers & his staff. No one was in there until Dan Reeves came around to say, "Uh...This is all wrong."
To be fair, most Houston fans thought the team was on the right track the first three years, and going into the 2-14 season, there was a lot of talk about competing for the playoffs. It's easy to say that staff was terrible in hindsight, but it wasn't wasn't always apparent at the time in the midst of it.
I was, too--with the notable exception that I thought they were all looney for dismantling the solid defense and ignoring that porous O-line after 2004, just before the 2-14 debacle.
some of us didn't need hindsight... and i post that not to brag, but if i - me! - saw problems... how did the team's management not??? it's one thing for fans to buy into a team; but i hold management to a much higher level of accountability. and they should have known they weren't as good as they thought they were. but these guys were obviously delusional and continued to compound their problems. the babin trade was perhaps the biggest mistake the team made in its first four years; but they then did it all over again the very next year dealing two day 1s for phillip buchanon. in 2 years, they dealt 4 day 1s for two players. that is DELUSIONAL!! and they additionally should have recognized carr's limitations; that he was much closer, but still had a lot of work to do. they didn't. ah, you know what? f it - i get too fired up/pissed off discussing it. i hope to live long enough for them to make murder legal so i can be there for "execute charley casserly" day at reliant stadium.
The 7-9 to 2-14 years are the main reason I'm not predicting the playoffs for this team like some here are. I think the team will be much more fun to watch without David Carr, but I'm not ready to say it will mean a 10-6 season. I think we're (finally) on the right path, but the path is a long one. My main expectation for this year is that we just be WATCHABLE, unlike the first 5 years. Give me an exciting 8-8 season with a couple of wins over the titans, and I'll be happy. Let's talk playoffs next year.
Unless you're writing about the Astros circa June 2005. "...In short, the Texans are now, by far, the least successful franchise in the city (though the Astros seem determined to steal that title)...."
lol! in my (weak) defense (i looked it up): they were 31-39 on june 22, 2005.... jeez; i started kind of looking back over that season - they frickin' won 15 of 17 between july 18 and august 3rd.... 15-2! wow... unreal.
it just frustrates the hell out of me; how NO ONE saw the writing on the wall... it seems inexplicable to me. and while i kid about his murder, i would sincerely rate charley casserly as my least favorite houston sports figure ever, and quite possibly my least favorite sports figure ever. just a travesty what he and capers did here...
