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[AOL] AL Playoff Outfielder Tests Positive for Steroids

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  1. rikesh316

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    http://journals.aol.com/dcsportsguy/mrirrelevant/entries/2162

    AL Playoff Outfielder Tests Positive for Steroids


    Deadspin's 'Who's the Mystery AL 'Roider?' post from yesterday included the following excerpt from this week's USA Today Sports Weekly:

    "An American League outfielder on a postseason team tested positive for steroids, according to his agent, but the player is appealing the results."

    Certainly interesting, but I didn't make much of it until we talked to Baseball Prospectus' Will Carroll on today's Sports Bloggers Live. Will writes a weekly column for BP that Peter Gammons has called an "industry standard," and he also wrote a book called 'The Juice' earlier this year. His response when told of the rumor?

    Carroll: "I really can't talk about it right now. It should be coming out within the next two weeks."

    SBL: "Is this a name we're actually going to care about?"

    Carroll: "Yes."

    SBL: "Is it a World Series champion?"

    Carroll: "I really can't talk about it."

    SBL: "I would hope not, because that might turn those White Sox black... Will, cough once if he's on the White Sox... Cough twice if it's Gary Sheffield."

    Carroll: "I was involved in the appeals process so I can't comment at all."

    Here's the full audio interview. The dialogue dictated here takes place between 6:20 and 7:00.

    If this is true, there's a 1-in-4 chance someone on the White Sox used steroids this season and then contributed to Chicago's first World Series victory since 1917. And there's a 100% chance a player used and then participated in the playoffs. So... Who was it? And what would Selig do if that player was the World Series MVP or the Game 2 hero? Would it be a Black Sox-level fiasco? Say it ain't so, Jermaine!

    Given what we presume to know -- that the guy is in the AL, made the playoffs, is relatively significant and plays outfield -- the list of possibilities is only 12-deep:

    · Chicago: Podsednik, Dye, Rowand

    · Anaheim: Anderson, Guerrero, Finley

    · New York: Matsui, Sheffield, Williams

    · Boston: Ramirez, Damon, Nixon

    As a fan of the game and none of the teams or players involved here (actually, Vlad is rad), I hope none of them are guilty. But if one is, I certainly hope he isn't on the White Sox.
     
    #1 rikesh316, Oct 28, 2005
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    If I had to cast my vote for one of the 12, I would choose Sheffield or Manny Ramirez. To me, they are the only two who are bulked-up enough to be on steroids. Matsui is huge, but it looks natural to me.
     
    #2 RocketMan Tex, Oct 28, 2005
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    My money is on Sheff.
     
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    Can't be Sheff...he doesn't have an agent.
     
    #4 Rocketman95, Oct 28, 2005
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    True. Manny also has a new agent so I don't think it could be him either. I would be so pissed if it was Jermine Dye. I putting would put my money on Johnny Damon.
     
    #5 rikesh316, Oct 28, 2005
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    I bet on Damon or Dye.

    I'll go with Dye.
     
    #6 torque, Oct 28, 2005
  7. Rocketman95

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    I think it'd be funny if it was Dye. Their World Series victory would always have a blemish. That's what they get for slapping Biggio's wife and throwing a World Series. :D
     
    #7 Rocketman95, Oct 28, 2005
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    Very interesting. This may sound bad but I almost hope it is someone on the White Sox.
     
    #8 Harrisment, Oct 28, 2005
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    Another black eye for MLB - Congrats Selig.
     
    #9 micah1j, Oct 28, 2005
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    Would be sweet justice if it was Scott Podsednik or Dye.
     
    #10 Svpernaut, Oct 28, 2005
  11. The Real Shady

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    I hope it's a player from the White Sox. We can always say that they needed to cheat in order to beat us. :)
     
    #11 The Real Shady, Oct 28, 2005
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    Can we close the roof now, Bud? :rolleyes:
     
    #12 GATER, Oct 28, 2005
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    It has to be a White Sox player. Can you imagine another Black Sox scandal? :D
     
    #13 hotballa, Oct 28, 2005
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    Please let it be a White Sox player! :D
     
    #14 Surfguy, Oct 28, 2005
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    If it's a White Sox player, they should seriously consider stripping the title from the Sox. It can't get much more harsh than that, and it would teach a big lesson.
     
    #15 Xerobull, Oct 28, 2005
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    I dont think that would be fair, one player losing the title for the whole team? Besides the whole city of Chicago would be so pissed that it would start riots and crap, would make the situation Selig has himself in now much worse. Everyone already hates Bud, if he stripped the title would make it much worse.
     
    #16 FlyerFanatic, Oct 28, 2005
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    Would you feel thats fair if the Astros won the WS and Lane for example tested positive? Of course not...and it wouldn't be fair to do it to the White Sox.
     
    #17 torque, Oct 28, 2005
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    Look at the other side of it..If it was a player on the Sox that was a difference-maker, it could be the Astros with the title now. I understand it's all conjecture, but if it turns out to be a White Sox player, so what if Chicago is pissed? They would have cheated to win.

    If one of our players tested positive, we would have cheated. I'm not making any bones about it. Fair is fair.
     
    #18 Xerobull, Oct 28, 2005
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    pure speculation...

    But, remember Roger's mom, on her death bed, (RIP, Mrs. Clemens +)...she predicted the Astros score that night - CORRECTLY, 10-2 good guys, predicted that the Astros would go to the World Series. She also said three times that day, Shoeless Joe Jackson. I couldn't place it throughout the series, though for a while in the 5th of game 3, when Roy was getting squeezed, I thought that the umps might be on the take.

    BUT - If it's a white sox outfielder - DYE?, who oviously hit a hr off of her boy in game 1 - then she nailed that too! She called out Shoeless Joe on September 14th!

    It's truly amazing the truths that are told when on your death bed. It happens too often be dismissed as coincidence. I'll stop. I don't want this to land in the D&D.
     
    #19 pariah, Oct 28, 2005
  20. FlyerFanatic

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    I see your point, but still...yea they could of been a difference-maker, but if it comes out that a White Sox player used roids...then everyones going to be like well they cheated to win. When if you look at it,the Astros had every opportunity to win games, but just didnt get it done. It doesnt make it right that the player used roids, but it just becomes an easy excuse for people who wanted the Stros to win to say well they cheated. IMO it wouldnt be fair to strip the title. Same if it were to be a Astros player, I dont think it would be fair to strip their NL title. If it were to be like Biggio or someone, I wouldnt want the whole team to lose their championship because of one player, if it were multiple players they found using roids then I might look at it differently
     
    #20 FlyerFanatic, Oct 28, 2005
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