i tried it out while in target since they had the setup, nba live was the only game @ the time as i was playing the game i felt like if it was my 360 maybe i bought into all that hype of the PS3 being the superior gaming system oh well i will still purchase 2 ps3 on launch day a sell them on ebay for profit $$
There is no NBA Live for the PS3 (unless you thought you were playing a PS3, but was actually playing a black 360 or something). You were probably playing NBA 07, which sucks (more so than Live probably). Visuals are probably worse than the 360 basketball games, especially if it wasn't in 1080p. Animations are current-gen at best. The SIXAXIS control might have made things interesting (and unlike anything on the 360), but it wouldn't by anything special. Not really the best test of the gaming capabilities of the PS3...although that probably applies to most (if not all) of the PS3 launch titles (RR7 is like RR6, COD3/MUA/TH8/Madden/NBA2k7/etc are ports, Gundam sucks, etc.). It would be nice if they had MotorStorm playable:
I'm not impressed by any of the next-gen systems. Surely, it's just the first sign that I'm getting old.
Ya NBA 07 is probably the worse game to showcase the PS3. In the next few months there will probably be no question that the PS3 generally will have the most superior graphics. I am not saying its the best system, games make the system. And perhaps the most impressive part of the PS3 is its ability to do other things. Internet, bluetooth, linux, bluray, etc... Lots of people dont care, they want their consoles soley for gaming. But even they would have to admit its capabilities are impressive.
It will take more than a few months IMO. Maybe more like a year, at least for it to be clearly superior. Technically, a bunch of games have "clearly" superior visuals on the PS3 already (if nothing else, just due to the inclusion of HDMI), but that's not really noticeable. It will take developers a little while to get the most out of the PS3 and Cell specifically. Sony's first and second party studios will be doing a good job of that early next year with games like Heavenly Sword, MotorStorm, and Lair, but other developers might need some more time to get good results on the PS3. It will probably be a little bit like how things went 5-6 years ago with the DC and PS2.
I'm sure you won't have any problem getting you're hands on 2 on the day of launch. Very tollish thread if you ask me.
With an operating system designed for a singular purpose. You of all people should know its not the hardware, its the software.
I don't like it when people buy a system just to hold it hostage and sell it at a huge markup. Much like I would be pissed if someone did that with Rockets tickets to Game 7 of the Finals. Certainly there are people who will read this and say "but that's the nature of our capitalist society" and I agree with that. Doesn't mean I have to like it though.
It is about the pipeline for sure.....but most TVs are not going to be able to handle all the stuff thrown at them from both systems...I think it will be 2 to 3 years before you see really cool stuff as we get used to programming for them. MS tools are pretty good already, and Sony's are ok...... DD
The first next gen games for the 360 are just now starting to come out ~ it will take a year for true next gen PS3 titles to come out as well.
ps3 has more processing power, while the xbox 360 has more memory sony PR has done a very good job in making the PS3 seem like it blows away the 360. Not the case at all...ask a developer and they're likely to tell you there isn't much of a difference. I know there are much more technicalities involved, but seeing as the consoles are about equal, it's about the games now...
I can't even imagine what things will look like 3+ years from now. Games like Gears of War and MotorStorm look amazing right now, and I imagine they are far from taking full advantage of the hardware in both systems (Epic actually said that about GOW, promising better things for GOW2). Just imagine how 1st/2nd generation games looked on the PS2/XBX compared to some of the big games that came out recently. Yeah, that's more or less how I see things happening. I suppose it could even be a little longer before developers are able to take good advantage of the PS3 due to what DaDakota pointed out. Microsoft's software tools are much better than Sony's (even with the help of IBM, Nvidia, Epic, etc.), so it was easier to get better results from the 360 in this past year. Of course, even if the tools were the same, the architecture of the PS3 also makes it a little more difficult for developers to put all the theoretical processing power to good use. Things could have been worse for the PS3 too. I read that Sony was thinking about going with another GPU that, on paper, would be much better than Nvidia GPU they have now, but it would have been terrible to develop for. I think developers let out a sigh of relief when they found out Sony was using a Nvidia GPU. BTW, I wasn't talking about a Cell-based GPU, which was a popular rumor a while back. Did you get that from Dennis Dyack? Not exactly the best source (doubt he's even worked with a PS3 devkit). They both have the same amount of RAM: 512MB. The 360 has 512MB of general, unified memory, so both the CPU and GPU have access to that pool of memory (CPU can access 512MB of RAM, and GPU can access 512MB of RAM). There are some problems with the two fighting over this memory though (only one bus IIRC). The PS3, in contrast, has 256MB of RAM for the CPU and 256MB of RAM for the GPU (each specialized to work with certain tasks). I believe it is possible for the CPU to use the GPU's RAM (and vice versa), but it isn't quite as easy (or efficient) as the 360. The 360 also has 10MB of eDRAM, but that's a little different (mostly just adds free AA when developers use it right). There were also rumors that the PS3's OS takes up 96MB of RAM at all times (compared to 32MB of RAM for the 360's OS), but it is unclear if that is still the case (might have just been for debugging purposes). As for processing power, the PS3's CPU (Cell) has a clear advantage over the 360's CPU (Xenon). In some of the tech forums I've read, Cell is usually said to be about 2-3 times more powerful than Xenon, although this is referring to theoretical processing power of course. It is up to developers to tap into that power, which is a much more difficult task of doing for Cell than Xenon AFAIK. I usually tend to say the GPUs are about equal, primarily because Sony hasn't said a thing about the PS3 GPU (RSX) since E3 2005. The G70/G71 (which RSX is assumed to be based upon) scaled up to RSX clockspeeds is better than the 360 GPU in some ways, and worse in others. Hmm...sounds familiar: http://xbox.ign.com/articles/360/360488p1.html Sometimes I wonder what developers mean when they say the power in two systems are "about the same." I certainly wouldn't describe the PS2 and Xbox in that way. All that said, the Sony PR has exaggerated the gap between the 2, that's for sure. I think the PS3 is capable of better visuals that would probably be noticeable to most/all people, but it won't be a generation gap or anything like that. It might not even be so much with the usual things we look at when it comes to visuals (textures, geometry, jaggies, etc.), but maybe more in the area of physics, animation, and things like that (areas where Cell can be deeply involved). That's actually one thing I've noticed so far. The best graphics I've seen on the 360 aren't that much different than the best graphics I've seen on the PS3; however, the physics and animation I've seen from some PS3 games seem much better than anything I've seen from pretty much all 360 games. Of course, that also applies to most PS3 games too, so that might just be due to the abilities of the developers working on those games and not the hardware itself.
The Wii was the only new system that I even considered, primarily because of the availability of the old-school NES & SNES games. Not surprisingly, the launch catalog for those types of games is terrible as well. This will be the first time since the Atari 2600 that I won't have a current-gen console.
