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Any news on Verlander?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by chrish23, Jul 21, 2021.

  1. awc713

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    JV to LAA makes a ton of sense. I guess we’ll have to sit back and see what he chooses. I could see NYY in there as well, especially if Kate wants to be on one of the coasts
     
  2. No Worries

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    And if the only pitch that JV could throw for a strike is a 97 mph fastball, he would beat like a red headed step child ... by any and all MLB teams.

    JV would need to throw a three pitch mix for strikes, to be back to form.
     
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  3. Squirtle

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  4. Plowman

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    Do. Not. Want.
     
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  7. vince

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    I’ve seen that 2 years 40 million might get it done. For me that is worth the risk.

    I saw a rumor that, It was apparently Correa who led the revolt against Verlander throwing out the pitch in the World Series. And most suspect that Correa will be donning a different uniform next season; maybe that feud ends there. Beca

    But if healthy, Verlander is a workhorse that can shines. I know the lack of sticky stuff will be a factor, as Verlander was pretty much considered declining and washed up prior to joining the Astros. Even then Verlander wanted to go to the Dodgers, but the dodgers or every other team that he wanted didn’t want him. It took Dallas Keutchel to call him directly and convince him.

    Signing Verlander to a 2 year deal is risky, but a gamble worth taking.
     
  8. Snake Diggit

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    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Verlander gets a 3rd year, even if it’s something like a club option that vests into a player option if he throws a certain number of innings.
     
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  9. No Worries

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    Want.
     
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  10. Nick

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    Well, they literally lost the last 2 year deal they signed him to.

    The gambler logic suggests that the next 2 year deal will be different and they’re due for a “win”…

    And yet the house always wins.
     
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  11. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I'm perfectly content with just offering the qualifying offer which already is a lot of money. If he bolts for a longer deal, then getting the draft pick.
     
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    I seriously doubt the next 2 year deal can be any worse than pitching less than 5 games in 2 years.
     
  13. Nick

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    Maybe. He either has a Clemens/Smoltz-like run of pitching in his late 30's-40's with more all star level performances... or he doesn't.

    The Astros have genuine interest so they feel he's worth the gamble... as they felt 2 years ago when they extended him.
     
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  14. J.R.

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    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021...t-coast-yankees-red-sox-blue-jays-tigers.html

    Ken Rosenthal suggested on MLB Network this morning that early indications are Verlander would prefer to sign with a club that holds Spring Training in Florida, which meshes with Joel Sherman of the New York Post reporting that several interested teams believe Verlander prefers to play with an East Coast club.

    Notably, Sherman adds that both the Red Sox and Blue Jays — each of whom hold Spring Training in Florida — made “aggressive” offers to another high-upside, short-term pitcher coming off Tommy John surgery: Noah Syndergaard. Peter Gammons tweeted yesterday that Syndergaard had multiple offers at or near the $21MM price point for which he agreed to join the Angels, including one approaching $25MM in value. It’s not expressly clear that the Jays or Red Sox offered $21MM+ for Syndergaard, but it’s notable that both teams were aggressive on a fellow Tommy John reclamation play.

    Verlander has drawn interest from both Toronto and Boston, per Sherman, who adds that the Yankees seem fairly serious with their interest in the 39-year-old. Verlander, somewhat notably, held his recent showcase at Cressey Sports Performance — the Florida-based training facility operated by Yankees director of player health and performance Eric Cressey. Corey Kluber did the same last offseason before ultimately agreeing to a deal with the Yankees. As noted at the time of the showcase, the location of Verlander’s audition alone doesn’t tip the scale in the Yankees’ favor, but it shouldn’t be completely overlooked, either.

    Geographical preference notwithstanding, the best offer is likely to win the bidding for Verlander at the end of the day. It’s unlikely he’d leave an extra year or tens of millions of dollars on the table to spurn a West Coast team to sign in New York, Boston or Toronto. Factors like geography, Spring Training locale and familiarity with teammates (e.g. Gerrit Cole in the Bronx, George Springer in Toronto) are often, albeit not always, more tiebreakers when weighing comparable offers.

    Tigers fans, of course, undoubtedly would love to see a reunion in Detroit and are surely heartened to see Verlander’s preference for Florida-based Spring Training outfits. However, Rosenthal also suggests that the Tigers may not be “in as heavily” as other interested clubs.
     
  15. lnchan

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    How's the income tax in Toronto, Boston, and New York...?
     
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    He has to formally reject the QO first…
     
  18. Deuce Rings

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    He gone....
     
  19. Snake Diggit

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    No he doesn’t. Syndergaard didn’t reject his QO. Signing with another team serves as the rejection.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    But he'd have to sign today, correct? Otherwise he has to officially reject
     

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