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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

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    Will the anti-vaccines people take that Covid19 vaccines when they become available or will they refuse to do and endanger the rest of the population?
     
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    Silly question.

    They have magnets and chakra crystals to stay heathy and overflow with positive vibes.
     
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  3. JuanValdez

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    Are there enough of them to make a significant difference?
     
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  4. Newlin

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    As long as there is a vaccine for everyone who wants it, I don’t care if some idiot chooses to risk his life.
     
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  5. Carl Herrera

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  7. B-Bob

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    The issue for both questions is herd immunity. There's a formula for herd immunity based on the disease's Ro value. You need a greater % of the population for higher Ro values, so for something like measles and (from what we know so far) this coronavirus, I think you need between 80-90% to achieve herd immunity.

    Why is that important if you yourself get a vaccine? Maybe your vaccine didn't work well. Maybe you got a dud. Maybe a friend is immuno-compromised. If you have herd immunity, the crap stops spreading around and most people won't even get exposed at all. You can live like "normal" which would be the point.

    So, I think if you have 5% of the population expressing FREEDUMB! principles and avoiding the vaccine, and then you just have a normal % that would never get anywhere near a doctor's office anyway, and then you have nervous undocumented folks who don't get vaccinated, people who literally can't medically receive the vaccine, whatever, etc, you could sneak up to getting us below 80%. Just spit-balling here.
     
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  8. Senator

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    Vaccinating helps diseases originating in the 20th century. But so does human evolution. China disease vaccination may not prevent death in those with pre existing conditions. Plenty of people with mumps vaccine still die from it. Sorry to bring science and facts into this instead of groupthink.
     
  9. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Whats your point here?
     
  10. SamFisher

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    That vaccines stopped working with Y2k. Galaxy brain >>> you
     
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    Bill Gate's idea of a vax w/ tracing ability fuels the conspiracy theory fire.
     
  12. Commodore

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    blind faith in all vaccines is just as ignorant and anti-science as blind dismissal of all vaccines
     
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    This statement makes no sense whatsoever.

    Vaccines and medicine in general, are not about faith, it's about science
     
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  14. Buck Turgidson

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    We should constantly roll B-52s over the US and fog all the vaccines...give those contrail freaks something to really worry about.
     
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  15. Commodore

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    "all vaccines are good" is no more about science than "all vaccines are bad"

    each vaccine should be assessed individually for efficacy, risk, side effects, etc.
     
  16. Buck Turgidson

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    Yes. This has already been done for all of the common childhood vaccines.
     
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    vaccines aren't good or bad just like any other drug - they are just tools used to help prevent diseases. But they undergo rigorous testing and trials before being given to humans.

    I am curious, which vaccines do you take issue with?
     
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    it actually makes perfect sense... for the particular poster
     
  19. SamFisher

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    All of your posts are ****

    Prove me wrong.
     
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    Shouldn't they be assessed individually for efficacy, etc?
     

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