1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Anti-War Hoopster Wins NBA's MVP

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by gifford1967, May 10, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653
    Steve Nash's Brilliant Year
    Anti-War Hoopster Wins NBA's MVP

    By DAVE ZIRIN

    By electing Steve Nash the NBA's Most Valuable Player, the pro basketball media made the day of everyone who plays hoops on Friday and protests the US war machine on Saturday.

    First and foremost, Steve Nash deserved this award. He averaged a league leading 11.5 assists a game and shot 50% but that doesn't even begin to explain his value to the Phoenix Suns. Comprehending Nash's season with stats alone is like judging the merit of a deep-dish sausage pizza by its calorie content: it's just more complicated than that. Beyond statistics, the six-foot tall Canadian point guard led the Suns to one of the great turnarounds in NBA history. After signing as a free agent from the Dallas Mavericks, Nash grabbed the Suns and yanked them from a terrible 29 wins to an NBA-leading 62. He took a horrible squad and made it a great one with an Energizer Bunny style of play that led Phoenix to score more points than any NBA team in a decade: over 110 points per game. Nash's "most valuability" was perhaps most clearly demonstrated during one five game stretch when Nash was injured. Without him, the Suns limped through five straight losses scoring just 97 points per contest. NASH'S play seems inspired by his first athletic love, soccer, and not coincidentally, Nash showed the world that basketball could also be "the beautiful game."

    Nash barely won the MVP, edging out Miami Heat center Shaquille O'Neal in a squeaker. His victory shocked some observers because it's Shaq who fits in with the NBA's marketing strategy of pushing forward individual superstars at the expense of team play. Nash, on the other hand, invited all of his Phoenix Suns teammates up to the podium with him when he accepted the MVP.

    O'Neal's loss has Miami columnists crying foul, but in fairness, the vote shouldn't even have been so close. O'Neal has had, statistically, the worst season of his career, averaging 22 points and 10 rebounds while shooting a harrowing career low 47% from the free throw line. Of course, AS with Nash, you don't measure Shaq's value by stats alone. He turned the Heat from a middling playoff team INTO a championship contender, but was arguably not even the Most Valuable Player on his own team, that honor going to superstar guard Dwyane Wade.

    Despite this, Miami Herald columnist Dan Le Batard contended Saturday that more insidious forces may have cost Shaq the award. Racism, argued Le Batard, may have played a decisive role in the vote. Le Batard wrote that to discount this would be "to ignore the pinkish elephant standing in the middle of the room in a Nash jersey. "Le Batard goes on to write, "No one who looks or plays like Steve Nash has ever been basketball's MVP. Even so, it begs the question: Is this as black and white as the boxscores that usually decide these things?"

    Any regular reader of this column knows that I leap - some have said too fast - swinging wildly whenever racism rears its ugly head in sports. But in this case, Le Batard's analysis is not only wrong, it is shallow and pedestrian. Le Batard contradicts himself by making the point that, "No one who looks or plays like Steve Nash has ever been basketball's MVP." If basketball writers were suckers for plucky Caucasians with gaudy assist numbers, John Stockton would have won TEN MVPs instead of zero. This is not just a question of color. Not Isiah Thomas, Mark Price, Kevin Johnson, Tim Hardaway, or Jason Kidd has ever won an MVP. It's always been the guy who finishes the break, not who orchestrates it, that gets the glory. The short guard who makes everyone else look good, gets the fuzzy end of the lollypop.

    It is great that the MVP voters have taken a step toward OVERCOMING their prejudice against the little guys who set the table.

    But that's not all the writers overcame with this vote. In electing Nash, they have thrown - whether intentionally or not - both spotlight and glory on someone who was an early and vocal resistor to the US occupation of Iraq.

    Nash was the first high profile athlete to come out against Dick Cheney's "war of a generation" showing up at the 2003 All-Star game in 2003 wearing a T-shirt that read, "Shoot baskets not people." When questioned on his incendiary attire, Nash said, "I think that war is wrong in 99.9 percent of all cases. I think [Operation Iraqi Freedom] has much more to do with oil or some sort of distraction, because I don't feel as though we should be worrying about Iraq." He also showed far more prescience than Bush, Cheney, Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice saying, "I think that Saddam Hussein is a crazy dictator but I don't think he's threatening us at this point in time. We haven't found any nuclear weapons -- no matter what anyone says -- and that process is still under way. Until that's finished and decided I don't think that war is acceptable." He then reiterated his position that, "Unfortunately, this is more about oil than it is about nuclear weapons."

    Nash also took issue with the pro-war media. Two years before the New York Times and The Washington Post were forced to issue apologies for their slavish, slothful pro-war coverage, Nash said, "I think a lot of what we hear in the news is misleading and flat-out false, so I think it's important for us to THINK deeper and find out what is really going on." He didn't backpedal from this stance despite criticism from his boss at the time, Mavs owner Mark Cuban and Spurs center David Robinson who said, ""If it's an embarrassment to [Nash] maybe [he] should be in a different country." Nash also was profiled in one mainstream paper earlier this season where he casually mentioned that the last book he read was The Communist Manifesto.

    In a country where much of the media, and sports media, have been in a race to the right, Shaquille O'Neal would have been a more appealing choice. Shaq's main dream after basketball is to become a cop. Already he has completed enough training to carry firearms and go on busts with local police. The Orange County (Fla.) Sheriff's Department in Orlando has even made O'Neal an honorary deputy. As OC spokesman Jim Solomons said, "He would definitely make an imposing officer, I'd love to see Shaq be the first through the door on a drug warrant."

    While news reports on O'Neal's ambitions are filled with cheeky references to his custom-fitted uniform and "size 22EEE boots," it's not a laughing matter to people on the other end of those shoes. In Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Shaq was accused of excessive force, specifically holding a suspect's head in a toilet and punching him repeatedly. This led to an internal investigation.

    It's possible that racism played a role for some voters in Nash's selection. But politics also plays a factor. The peace activist beat the cop. For the basketball media to honor a serious anti-war voice like Nash-- and to have that player lead a style of play so invigorating is cause for celebration.

    http://www.counterpunch.com/zirin05102005.html
     
  2. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,360
    Who gives a crap about a basketball player's politics. He's not even an American, so furthermore, who cares about his view of US politics?? Not me.

    nothing to see here folks, move along
     
  3. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    And that my friends, in a nutshell, is the reason why America is hated so much in the world.

    I was wondering how long it would take for this thread to turn into a Canada hating thread. Thanks Texxx! You didn't disappoint.
     
  4. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,360
    How did I hate on Canada? I didn't even mention Canada.

    Are you taking classes in the FranchiseBlade school of reading comprehension?
     
  5. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    I stand corrected.

    Would xenophobia be a better term to use?
     
  6. glynch

    glynch Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2000
    Messages:
    18,072
    Likes Received:
    3,601
    Bigtexx, could you please consider changing your name? While you certainly have your right to free speech, your posts and name play to the stereotype of Texas as mainly populated by provincial minded rednecks. Texas is trying to shed this image.

    I would hate to have the out of staters and international posters think your attitudes reflect Texas in the 21st century.
     
  7. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,365
    Likes Received:
    9,291
    this has nothing to do with canada, but i do think it takes a certain amount of hutzpah for a canadian to lecture americans on their government. i mean, people living in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. and how many canadians have died liberating iRaq?
     
  8. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    Sort of like W telling other countries how to run their government right?
     
  9. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653
    So basso you think if you come from a country where political corruption occurs, it is illegitimate to comment on the politics of another country.


    How many threads about France have you started?
     
  10. Sishir Chang

    Sishir Chang Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2000
    Messages:
    11,064
    Likes Received:
    8
    To a certain extent I find myself in agreement with Bigtexx. I don't think Nash's politic opinion should matter in regard to him being MVP and I doubt that was a factor at all to the voters.

    I also don't think Nash's opposition towards the war will sway a lot of people who support it opinions.
     
  11. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2002
    Messages:
    26,977
    Likes Received:
    2,360
    glynch, since I like you, I will consider your request.

    I would like to change my name to Sgt. Slaughter.
     
  12. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653

    No, no, no. BigTexx should keep his handle. Everytime I see it I picture him with his little cowboy hat and his plastic holsters, blazing away with his cap guns at a possum that he thinks is a huge rat.
     
  13. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,365
    Likes Received:
    9,291
    my comments about france are in the context of how they affect US foreign policy. as far as i know, the liberation of iraq has had little effect on canadian foreign policy.
     
  14. real_egal

    real_egal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    247
    I feel rather odd, that Americans are free to offer their valuable opinion about other countries and people. For instance, middle east, Europe, Asia. Everyone takes North Korea as dead meat, the only difference is how you want to cook it. They talked about Old Europe and New Europe, and they talked about whether Chinese should re-evaluate their currency, and they talked about whether Tibet belongs to China, and whether Japan should apologize, or whether other Asian nations should just forgive. They talked about who should run which country. But once, a foreigner dares to open the mouth, and talk about US or US policy (of course, only if in a critisizing way), wow, a hot button is pushed. Some of the Americans who advocate FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY all over the world, and liberation for those suffering people, cannot stand it. They have to jump out and show their hurt feeling and offended hearts, point out clearly, it's our country, our policy, our business. You are not entitled to critisize it, and it's none of your business, crawl back to your hold and mind your own.

    Isn't it laugable? I guess people are all the same, despite race, nationality, religion, or education, we are all the same, we all have super egos. We can "honestly" and "freely" critisize or even attack others, but we feel we are good enough with self-critique, therefore, nobody else should EVER critisize us.
     
    #14 real_egal, May 10, 2005
    Last edited: May 10, 2005
  15. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,306
    Likes Received:
    4,653
    Basso,

    Guess what- US foriegn policy affects the foriegn policy of every other country on earth.
     
  16. NJRocket

    NJRocket Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2001
    Messages:
    7,242
    Likes Received:
    27

    amen brother
     
  17. MartianMan

    MartianMan Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2005
    Messages:
    1,745
    Likes Received:
    3
    wow, i actually agree with you there. :confused:
     
  18. real_egal

    real_egal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    247
    It's not really a shame to agree with me on something:) We might disagree with something, but I guess we still agree that the Sun rises and falls. We also agree on basic logics here.
     
  19. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2002
    Messages:
    57,785
    Likes Received:
    41,212
    No, we're not all the same. Actually, we're quite diverse. Politically and otherwise, thank goodness.


    Keep D&D Civil!!
     
  20. basso

    basso Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    33,365
    Likes Received:
    9,291
    you and gifford are missing the point. as i said, if US policy is affecting canadians, by all means, critisize away. near as i can tell, the only canadian fall-out from the liberation of iraq has been exposing the roll of some canadians in the oil-for-food scandal.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page