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Answer For the Jeffersons, Boozers, Kgs

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wtfamonkey, Feb 9, 2009.

  1. wtfamonkey

    wtfamonkey Member

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    :confused: [​IMG]

    He is a great defender against guys that use the frontal post ups. He has great lateral quickness and he seems to be the answer against guys like Boozer and Garnett. Why wasnt he playing more against Jefferson? seems to puzzle me :confused: :confused:
     
  2. DcProWLer277

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    Who would Yao guard if we put Hayes on Jefferson? The only way it would work is if we would have taken Yao out.
     
  3. pmac

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    I'm guessing you mean put Chuck in at PF. If Chuck is guarding big Al then who is Yao guarding? Yes, Kevin Love, who plays even further away from the basket and takes more jumpers. So what about the Jazz? Well, If Yao doesn't guard Boozer then he has to guard Okur. You see the problem here?
     
  4. wtfamonkey

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    no,no,no.

    Last game. Hayes did not play that much. During the time when he was in. He played great D on jefferson and cause a lot of problems against him. yes, he is a offensive liability. But he should take all of the Center backup mins when Yao is on the bench.
     
  5. real_egal

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    One thing puzzles me is, why NBA coaches never really trust zones? I don't remember I have ever seen a complete NBA game where one team played 48 minutes of zone defense. I know it could be vulnerable to good 3 pointer shootings, but nothing is perfect. With our current squad, I am confident that our offense can offset those 3 pointers from opponents, for the FG% is just lower.

    Before we give it a try, I don't think anyone can be certain it's not going to work. Why can't we give it a try? Afraid it's not going to work, and lose us a game or 2? It's not like we are on 82-0 pace.
     
  6. durvasa

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    Didn't we play a game recently where we played zone for nearly an entire half?

    It worked for about half a quarter, and then it crumbled. NBA offenses are too good to use a zone defense for an extended period of time.
     
  7. mms

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    Then limit Yao's minutes and put Scola at 5. Fortunately, we wont have this kind of mismatch in this year playoffs.
     
  8. FLASH21

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    The problem is that what we needed was offense during this game not D.

    I mean of course we need to play D but we were missing shots everywhere and needed a shot in the arm. That's when our sleepin giant woke up the team with that monster dunk.

    Wouldn't it be nice if we could combine Chuck, Luis, and Carl to make Scolanchuck, the maga forward! :p

    lol
     
  9. real_egal

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    In international tournaments, US teams only see zone defense. I think that zone defense made up some of the talent gap. Certainly the rules are a little bit different, 3 pointer line is closer, but I mean without giving a serious try, we will never know.

    I don't think one quarter can determine anything. It could simply be so many reasons - the opposing team got hot, or the Rockets team didn't play disciplined enough as the first quarter, or they are just not good at it yet. I mean any offensive or defensive system needs time for the team to learn and play together to make it work. Just like Yao's 0-4 at the start of the Minni game can't assure us that Yao will never score on Jefferson. By the same token, TMac's 13 points in 35 seconds doesn't mean he can win every game single-handedly.

    We see Don Nelson has been trying small and fast ball consistently. It works to some extend, but it hasn't win any title with that style. But they are trying consistently. Why nobody has ever really tried zone, given its success in international ball? Unlike soccer, basketball is never about not making mistakes or benefit from one or two opportunities, it's always about statistic. If you can drop opponent's FG% by 3%, and increase your own percentage for 2%, you will win most games.

    What puzzles me is without solid data (or better to say, without any meaningful data pool), NBA seems to have made a consensus decision not to play zone. Based on what?
     
  10. wtfamonkey

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    I thought NBA cant play zone is because there would be a defensive 3 seconds in the paints. however, in international competition. there is no defensive 3 seconds
     
  11. Legend Killer

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    This is the real problem. We saw how Okur abused Yao on the perimeter and it was obvious that Yao couldn't guard Boozer.
     
  12. NotInMyHouse

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    What about Chuck or even Deke spelling Yao a little more often though to try and upset the rhythm of someone like an Al Jefferson? I'm still dissapointed in the Deke signing. I love the guy and want to see him on the floor more, but right now he is just wasting a roster spot.
     
  13. King901

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    Keep in mind that Chuck shut Dirk down in the 3nd half of a game this season.
    His D is good no doubt but his offense is why he rides the bench alot.
     
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    I love Chuck's defense, but he's not really an answer. More like part of an answer. It might be best to use him in the 4th quarter, when those players are getting tired and Chuck is fresh.
     
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    You can't have a true zone because of the 3 second rule. The zone generally does a good job at forcing an outside shot, but because of the 3 second rule, there are times when the lane is open. So its almost easier to just play sag off man to man defense when you want to force the outside shot.

    Also... a great man to man beats a great zone any day of the week, and man to man is simpler to learn, you just have to know when to rotate off your guy.
     
  16. DaDakota

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  17. rayrocket

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    I like Hayes a lot, but Coach doesn't. Scola and Landry are doing so well offensively, maybe he will be traded to another team very soon.
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    Yao is better defensively than he was two years ago, the last time he saw Utah in the playoffs. Remember we didn't have him last year??
     
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    How about Chuck develops an offensive game and all this talk can be put to bed.
     
  20. BackNthDay

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    Good D by Chuck, however, they will avg at least 45% shooting against Chuck and he will avg at least 20% or less shooting against them.

    Why, because he has no offensive game and hurts us tremendously by allowing the people you mention to rest on d because he has no O. Also, his misses or block attempts start fast breaks for other teams. We need 5 offensive players on the court with the way the NBA is played now.

    So in my opinion, he is the player that you break the glass in case of an emergency.
     

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